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It is evidence that they didn't have permission if you sue them.
There's no grounds on which to file suit. The 9th circuit court found web scraping is legal. https://techcrunch.com/2022/04/18/web-scraping-legal-court/
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One (in this case, 2) company's incentive for profit should not take priority over the usability/well being of the internet as a whole, ever, and is exactly why we are where we are now. This is an absolutely terrible precedent.
I agree with you in theory, but in practice someone has to pay for all this magic.
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The network effects are too strong. Remember, the only reason Reddit "won" was because Digg destroyed itself with a radical upgrade that everyone hated. Reddit would have to do something similarly self-inflicted, and I can't even guess where people would go. Reddit was already an alternative to Digg -- what's the alternative to Reddit? I mean, it's certainly not Quora.
There is Lemmy for example, very similar to old Reddit. The big problem is the missing content outside of mainstream communities.
Suppose a crawler or rival search engine doesn’t respect robots.txt, reddit can’t stop them. Make it a bit trickier, yes, but not stop them.
reddit blocked datacenter IPs even before this change.
# Welcome to Reddit's robots.txt # Reddit believes in an open internet, but not the misuse of public content. # See https://support.reddithelp.com/hc/en-us/articles/26410290525844-Public-Content-Policy Reddit's Public Content Policy for access and use restrictions to Reddit content. # See https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit4researchers/ for details on how Reddit continues to support research and non-commercial use. # pol…
Wow, reddit found a way to make themselves even less useful somehow. After the API fiasco, that seemed like it'd be pretty hard to do.
The only things it does for me is forcing me to use Google as a large amount of the answers I need is on reddit.
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You'll have to demonstrate that. Is Google's contract with Reddit exclusive, so that other search engines aren't given the opportunity to also pay? I highly doubt that, especially since the DOJ would go after that immediately because of antitrust. So no, pretty sure the blame here is 100% on Reddit unless you have evidence otherwise.
I don't think the DOJ acts immediately. > so that other search engines aren't given the opportunity to also pay? this makes it harder for new engines if google has exclusive deals with some of the most popular sites
My comment said, show me that the Google deal with Reddit is exclusive.
You haven't done that.
And there's no reason to think it would be, because of antitrust. The DOJ doesn't have to act "immediately", the point is that obvious antitrust violations come with fines that make it unprofitable to attempt in the first place. And this would be black-and-white obvious antitrust violation, given Google's monopoly status in search. This isn't a gray area where it might be worth it for Google to roll the dice.