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Re: Ask HN: What do you guys think of the current job market in tech?

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Post by meiraleal »

trog wrote: post #69
MrSS wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It would be great, if we talk about a topic like this, to give more insight why they think to simplify complex problems with the word immigrants. I'm also pretty sure that people on hn are people who generally work globally (take opportunities remotly without even immigrating anywere), travel and or consider moving around the world as they see fit. And your statistic is really interesting (pure curiosity) but most im…

In Australia we had over 500,000 immigrants in 2023. Much higher than usual to account for decreased numbers in prior years due to COVID. We only have 6 cities with populations bigger than 500k. We let in a number of people greater than the population of our capital city in one year. I am not anti-immigration (I have two people in my team I've helped arrange visas for). But this insane number has seriously changed th…

Please, kick out all the brazilians that invaded your country. They are more skilled than the average brazilian that didnt emigrate and we sure need those here. It makes no sense to be the scapegoat of unhappy extremists in australia or any other country

Re: Ask HN: What do you guys think of the current job market in tech?

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Post by trog »

nvy wrote: post #47
darkwizard42 wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The solution to a housing crisis is to limit immigration? Wouldn’t it be to build more dense housing (thereby spurring economic activity and lowering a primary expense of households)???

Here in Canada we literally cannot build housing fast enough. The government is targeting half a million immigrants annually, and we recently set an all-time housing starts record of only about half that number. Sometimes it actually is immigration that is causing problems.

Same in Australia. The government keeps making big noise about these 'big' housing plans and then the number is like 30,000 new houses, which is enough for a couple months. There is zero systemic approach to this problem. I feel like I am going insane.

Re: Ask HN: What do you guys think of the current job market in tech?

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Post by defrost »

meiraleal wrote: post #71
trog wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In Australia we had over 500,000 immigrants in 2023. Much higher than usual to account for decreased numbers in prior years due to COVID. We only have 6 cities with populations bigger than 500k. We let in a number of people greater than the population of our capital city in one year. I am not anti-immigration (I have two people in my team I've helped arrange visas for). But this insane number has seriously changed th…

Please, kick out all the brazilians that invaded your country. They are more skilled than the average brazilian that didnt emigrate and we sure need those here. It makes no sense to be the scapegoat of unhappy extremists in australia or any other country

> It makes no sense to be the scapegoat of unhappy extremists

Check the tone of the comments by myself and trog above, we're a mostly friendly nation happy to meet people from across the globe, currently something like 25% of the Australian population was born overseas.

If you look at the graph I linked in a comment above you can see the current pressure - way more new people arriving than normal .. overstressing the existing means for absorbing fresh meat into the BBQ Borg collective.

The extremists we have a few but feral .. we have small pockets of bush nazis and some leafy suburbs with nervous elders who remember a distant White Australia policy. I think they're most worried about the first people moving in next door: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hu0_Hb7QRlw

Re: Ask HN: What do you guys think of the current job market in tech?

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Post by MrSS »

trog wrote: post #69
MrSS wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It would be great, if we talk about a topic like this, to give more insight why they think to simplify complex problems with the word immigrants. I'm also pretty sure that people on hn are people who generally work globally (take opportunities remotly without even immigrating anywere), travel and or consider moving around the world as they see fit. And your statistic is really interesting (pure curiosity) but most im…

In Australia we had over 500,000 immigrants in 2023. Much higher than usual to account for decreased numbers in prior years due to COVID. We only have 6 cities with populations bigger than 500k. We let in a number of people greater than the population of our capital city in one year. I am not anti-immigration (I have two people in my team I've helped arrange visas for). But this insane number has seriously changed th…

You are growing for over a decade now. Thats crazy anyway. How is it that its now a problem?

With the graph above, australia gained in avg 200k people per year

Re: Ask HN: What do you guys think of the current job market in tech?

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Post by kyriakos »

n_ary wrote: post #61
nopelynopington wrote: post #31

I'm in the EU, I just picked up a new job as a senior dev. I had been a team lead / manager but struggled to find another role as I only have two years experience in management. Picking up a dev role was easier. Things I've learned in the process (and from being on interview panels myself) 1) I tend to stay in a job a long time (5 years plus) and this is highly valued by interviewers 2) in tech interviews you need to…

> 1) I tend to stay in a job a long time (5 years plus) and this is highly valued by interviewers I believe this is an EU thing for us. I had informal discussion with friends from US/CA, and there, it is somehow seen as stagnation and something something about pay not improving.

Company loyalty is valued way more in Europe than across the Atlantic.

Re: Ask HN: What do you guys think of the current job market in tech?

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Post by red-iron-pine »

Lotta openings, but no one seems to be biting.

Meanwhile I know a lot of folks who can't find people. In most cases it looks like they're searching for a hyper-specific candidate.

At this point I don't know whether to blame new HR tools which seem to suck even more, HR putting out a lot of bunko posts to get data and look like they're hiring, or a Post-COVID job market that's absolutely flooded with marginal candidates, all of whom want remote.

Re: Ask HN: What do you guys think of the current job market in tech?

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Post by a_t48 »

kapitanjakc wrote: post #9
a_t48 wrote: post #6

After I quit my last job, I ended up starting my own thing - wasn't ready to go through the hassle of interviewing again.

That's great, how's that working out ? Is it more or less the same ? Or are there major differences ?

It’s very different. Love not having to deal with others’ stresses, hate that I internalize a bunch more stress of my own instead

Re: Ask HN: What do you guys think of the current job market in tech?

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Post by a_t48 »

furk wrote: post #8
a_t48 wrote: post #6

After I quit my last job, I ended up starting my own thing - wasn't ready to go through the hassle of interviewing again.

How’s that going? Do you see yourself going back to a 9-5 job in near future?

Getting to choose what I work on is great. Chasing down VC leads is not so great but I’m growing into it. I’m not sure what I’ll do if I run out of savings and support - I suppose I’ll look for a job with enough flexibility to let me keep building part time. Maybe contract work.

Re: Ask HN: What do you guys think of the current job market in tech?

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Post by logicalmonster »

nullc wrote: post #15
EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So you are interviewing just for practice and rejecting all the offers? Not afraid to get on some kind of black list because of that behavior?

No, the poster is "overemployed". That's when people commit fraud against their employers by accepting multiple concurrent full time salaried positions and then phoning in their jobs until they're fired or the employer folds.

If the person is able to complete the job, it's not necessarily fraud.

Re: Ask HN: What do you guys think of the current job market in tech?

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Post by rndaom »

Market is in the gutter.

Many job ads are fake and only there to confuse shareholders about the company health.

Interviewers are looking for the tiniest bit of excuse to fail you along the process while quite often they are looking for lesser engineers than themselves as this buys them job security.

Offers, when they come, are much worse (terms + money) than what they were 2 years ago.

Most of the companies don't want to invest even a day on you so you have to have the exact package they're looking for.

It is fully a (job) sellers market. OTOH if you are a company and you find it hard to find people in this market then you're doing something really wrong.

EU-Greece here.

Good luck.

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