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Google-Wiz deal fizzles out, company will pursue IPO

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Re: Google-Wiz deal fizzles out, company will pursue IPO

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Look at their financials, CloudFlare might be popular among the HN crowd but the stock is massively overvalued. At the end of the day they are a commodity CDN that somehow can’t run a profitable business.

Yeah nah... they have great products and their primary business is allowing them to enter markets where other companies can't compete. The valuation is based on potential not the business as it stands today. And to your point they are popular with the HN crowd which is usually a strong indicator.

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Re: Google-Wiz deal fizzles out, company will pursue IPO

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Far more likely is Google was not willing to complete the deal and was pulling the plug after looking at internal data. Wiz, fearing the bad press of Google backing out rushes to tell journalists that THEY are walking away because they are worth more. Wiz's valuation is insane. Most people havent even heard of them. I think it was a > 60x ARR multiple on this deal. Id actually be kinda pissed if I was a google shareh…

While I don't have any comment on this instance, in general I think it's easier to hype the public markets who have limited information than it is to type a bunch of people doing due diligence on an acquisition, even if ultimately the latter is still a case of public market valuation through the acquiring public company. This is particularly true in the current age of extremely hype driven retail investing.

> a bunch of people doing due diligence on an acquisition

I bet those people rarely get promoted for preventing an acquisition, though. Probably that is why we see so many crazy acquisitions, in general.

Re: Google-Wiz deal fizzles out, company will pursue IPO

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Fun fact:

> Wiz was founded in January 2020 by Assaf Rappaport, Yinon Costica, Roy Reznik, and Ami Luttwak, all of whom previously founded Adallom

> Adallom was founded in 2012 by Assaf Rappaport, Ami Luttwak and Roy Reznik, who are former members of the Israeli Intelligence Corps’ Unit 8200

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiz_(company)

Re: Google-Wiz deal fizzles out, company will pursue IPO

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They’ve had some really nice writeups but I always thought they were your generic security firm doing some bug hunting. Recently I happened upon their domain submissions to HN and saw they raised $1b+ and was like wtf? What do they actually do? I mean what are their products that people pay for? Maybe there are obvious answers to these questions, but if a company is worth $23bn I’d expect that as somebody in the indu…

https://old.reddit.com/r/cybersecurity/comments/1c1s9r2/wiz_... > Wiz combines a graph search for asset management with agentless vuln and malware scanning that clones EBS volumes and scans them on their infrastructure. That's a great combo for vuln management, but has some downsides like delays between scans and cloud costs. They have a sensor with solid detection rules, and are okay at a bunch of other stuff like c…

This sounds uselessly crippled, as it's not going to catch malware that doesn't drop anything to disk, or that adequately cleans up after itself if it does.

Re: Google-Wiz deal fizzles out, company will pursue IPO

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Look at their financials, CloudFlare might be popular among the HN crowd but the stock is massively overvalued. At the end of the day they are a commodity CDN that somehow can’t run a profitable business.

I did look at their financials - 77% gross margin with 30% revenue growth. Much higher than “commodity cdn” can command. If they cut marketing and r&d they’d be bagging half a b a year in profit but they are investing in growth as they should because it’s working

Cloud flare will still be the internet in ten years, while Amazon will just be Walmart,

Re: Google-Wiz deal fizzles out, company will pursue IPO

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Most likely reason is FTC. Wiz integrates with big 4 cloud providers. No way FTC is allowing Google to take control. JD Vance's nomination and support for current FTC chair(Lina Khan) doesn't help.

Current FTC is good(personal opinion) from anti trust point of view but maybe bad for startup exits[0].

[0] https://x.com/ID_AA_Carmack/status/1812978264484552987

Re: Google-Wiz deal fizzles out, company will pursue IPO

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Cause their founders are already Billionaires. Can you imagine Billionaires reporting to the average corporate robot at large corp?

Which founder is a billionaire? What is their net worth?

Each of the four founders (CEO, CTO, Product, R&D), https://www.calcalistech.com/ctechnews/article/hjpwti2dr
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