Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate • Hacker News Board

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Post by romanhn » Sun, Jul 21, 2024, 6:21 PM UTC

Here's what @dang posted on the giant thread of Biden winning presidency (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25015967). I suspect this thread has been auto-killed by some spam algo and there's a good chance dang will resurrect it at some point.

"As many have pointed out, a dozen or so submissions on this topic were flagged by users. That's actually the immune system working as intended, but another component of the system is that moderators rescue the very most historic stories so HN can have a single big thread about them. We did that 4 years ago, also for Brexit, etc.

Since this was the first submission on the topic, it seems fairest to be the one to restore. (It's still on our todo list to have some form of karma sharing for situations like this, to make it be less of a race and/or lottery.)"

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Post by richrichie » Sun, Jul 21, 2024, 6:21 PM UTC

ahartmetz wrote: post #41

Oof. This guy has been the biggest positive surprise of the US presidents in my lifetime. Expectations were low, but he actually turned out to be a good president (from a European perspective). No new wars, no more talk about shifting defense focus to Asia, generally nothing unreasonable. Good support for Ukraine, no doubts about NATO - rather the opposite. Basically, the rich uncle on the other side of the pond has…

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Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Post by boomboomsubban » Sun, Jul 21, 2024, 6:22 PM UTC

Rebelgecko wrote: post #43

Is this unprecedented?

Lyndon B Johnson was the last to not seek reelection, though he stepped out in late March.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Post by slater » Sun, Jul 21, 2024, 6:22 PM UTC

caminante wrote: post #42

nailer wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Per the HN guidelines the rules for the site are whatever hackers find interesting

Re-read it. It may've changed since you last read, but general politics is off-topic. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

"Off-Topic: Most stories about politics"

Note, most. Not all. Big stories such as these are, I'd say, on-topic.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Post by g-b-r » Sun, Jul 21, 2024, 6:22 PM UTC

BadHumans wrote: post #30

I actually think this loses Democrats the election. I don't know who the nominee is going to be but if it's Kamala I think they REALLY lose the election. People may be lukewarm on Biden but they despise Kamala for her shady history as a prosecutor.

It sure seems like there are better chances with him gone; but yeah, he might have already given Trump the presidency by waiting so long (and for running for this election in the first place)

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Post by daseiner1 » Sun, Jul 21, 2024, 6:22 PM UTC

caminante wrote: post #42

nailer wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Per the HN guidelines the rules for the site are whatever hackers find interesting

Re-read it. It may've changed since you last read, but general politics is off-topic. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

“Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, or celebrities, *unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon*”

Emphasis mine. This is not a “general politics” story and almost certainly qualifies as an “interesting new phenomenon”.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Post by janice1999 » Sun, Jul 21, 2024, 6:22 PM UTC

Rebelgecko wrote: post #43

Is this unprecedented?

No. Johnson did not seek reelection after his first term.

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/07/03/politics/lbj-biden-what-m...

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Post by yongjik » Sun, Jul 21, 2024, 6:23 PM UTC

trentnix wrote: post #4

skilled wrote: post #2

It’s for the best. The man is not in his best form and he has repeatedly shown that he isn’t. He attempted to rectify the situation since the debate but even those attempts fell short. Let’s see who is going to take the mantle now. /edit: he is endorsing Kamala, https://nitter.poast.org/JoeBiden/status/1815087772216303933

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He's still competent enough to be president. He just doesn't have the chops to skewer a lunatic in a live TV debate, which is unfortunately very important, because if he can't, the lunatic might be the next president.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Post by g-b-r » Sun, Jul 21, 2024, 6:23 PM UTC

caminante wrote: post #35

black_knight wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He can do president duties, while the candidate they choose go around collecting votes.

That's the thing. If he's unfit to serve 6 months from now, then how is he fit to serve now? He didn't endorse Kamala in his letter. We'll see what comes out of the spin cycle this week. e: looks like Biden endorsed Kamala according to other publications

He's just probably unfit to serve four more years, and for sure was too unlikely to beat Trump

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Post by [deleted] » Sun, Jul 21, 2024, 6:24 PM UTC

techostritch wrote: post #69

hubraumhugo wrote: post #64

Hard to draw a line here in terms of guidelines: > Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, or celebrities, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

This feels like evidence of interesting new phenomenon, I get why 99% of politics topics should be removed, but if we post one when presidents get elected, it seems like something as impactful as president dropping out should count too.

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