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Re: Pornhub Pulls Out of Nebraska

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Post by ideasp »

EnergyAmy wrote: post #70
ideasp wrote: post #60

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There are plenty of solutions for that already in place. Child sex abuse sites get blocked, for example. Even forums like Kiwi Farms have carriers blackholing them. No reason why this can't be similarly enforced for porn sites that skirt the age verification rules.

Interesting that this is being suggested in a thread where someone is throwing around accusations of hyperbole. At least you're not beating around the dystopic bush. I hope that you never find yourself on the receiving end of this process. You might think that you have nothing to hide, as many have throughout history before finding out that they were quite wrong.

I'm not a pornographer, of any type, so I will never find myself having to be concerned about children accessing my websites and being on the receiving end of any law that intends to regulate this.

Re: Pornhub Pulls Out of Nebraska

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Post by EnergyAmy »

ideasp wrote: post #69
gambiting wrote: post #36

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>>Anyone with any decent of ethics would refrain from consuming this material. What, like....all porn? There are plenty of amateur couples who upload incredibly tender, loving and respectful videos of their love life to PH. Why are you bundling everything together with the exploitative stuff?

Just looking at the front page of Pornhub right now: "Stepmother and son share a bed in a hotel" "Fake taxi Bengali nurse takes a big cock in her tight Asian pussy" "Petite blonde whore opening her ass for me to demolish" You want children watching this?

Every one of your responses fails to actually engage with the comment you're responding to. You're directly missing the point here. You should not create alts just to engage in low-effort argumentation.

Re: Pornhub Pulls Out of Nebraska

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Post by lcnPylGDnU4H9OF »

ideasp wrote: post #71
EnergyAmy wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Interesting that this is being suggested in a thread where someone is throwing around accusations of hyperbole. At least you're not beating around the dystopic bush. I hope that you never find yourself on the receiving end of this process. You might think that you have nothing to hide, as many have throughout history before finding out that they were quite wrong.

I'm not a pornographer, of any type, so I will never find myself having to be concerned about children accessing my websites and being on the receiving end of any law that intends to regulate this.

"this process" in their comment is referring to the legislative process to effectively outlaw something which you do and see as harmless.

If you don't stand up for others' rights you might find yourself alone when you're trying to stand up for your rights.

Re: Pornhub Pulls Out of Nebraska

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Post by haunter »

EnergyAmy wrote: post #67
ideasp wrote: post #65

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There are loads of things that require age verification to prevent children accessing them. Why is porn apparently so special? Bit suspicious tbh.

What internet sites are required to do age verification beyond clicking a "Yes, I'm of age button"?

Pretty much anything involved with money needs not just age but in most cases identity verification too. Online banking, online gambling, online trading etc.

Re: Pornhub Pulls Out of Nebraska

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Post by snarf21 »

doggero wrote: post #25
wkat4242 wrote: post #16

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The thing is, age verification that consists of more than a simple button of "yes I'm over 18" is privacy intrusive. Who wants to register as a porn viewer? Especially in the US where this is stigmatised.

It's stigmatized for good reason. The amount of abuse within the pornography industry is immense. Anyone with any decent of ethics would refrain from consuming this material.

Or.... "The amount of abuse within the [phone manufacturing, shoe manufacturing, textile manufacturing, palm oil harvesting, lithium mining, etc.] industry is immense. Anyone with any decent of ethics would refrain from consuming these products."

Re: Pornhub Pulls Out of Nebraska

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Post by pests »

krembo wrote: post #62

How do they make money? What's their revenue stream? Who's paying $ when most content is for free, and when people really want to pay they go to OF. I know the phrase that when the product is free, then I'm the product, but even then, how do they make money from customers' mostly-incognito data?

PH purged all unverified content a few years ago and focuses more on creators like Twitch or YouTube does. You have paid memberships, premium content, tipping, and ads. They even do a pretty good revenue share. It's not the PH of the 2000s.

Their parent company, MindGeek, also owns at least 5+ studios themselves including popular ones like Brazzers so it works as promotion/marketing as well.

Re: Pornhub Pulls Out of Nebraska

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Post by coombrained »

jfengel wrote: post #68
IshKebab wrote: post #18

I wonder what age verification system Pornhub would want. I mean if they actually do want one (dubious) and they don't want to deal with people's IDs (very sensible) then they could propose one. I would have thought it's pretty easy. Have a government site that verifies your ID and just produces some kind of cryptographic token that porn sites can verify but reveals nothing other than the fact that you are over 18. I…

It's not really a question of what PH would want, but what the states will accept. The government isn't going to provide an age identification program, because they really don't want to enable people to watch porn. This isn't about protecting the kiddies; it's about keeping porn out entirely. And PornHub knows perfectly well that nothing they do will satisfy a state prosecutor looking to harass them. Even if they col…

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Re: Pornhub Pulls Out of Nebraska

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Post by Gud »

halJordan wrote: post #35
doggero wrote: post #27

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Or, just choose not to consume online pornography if you don't want to share your identity documents with a verification service. It really is that simple.

I definitely was not aware America was a country where i need to be permitted my actions and otherwise kept on a registry of who's allowed to do what.

Well, now you know.

Re: Pornhub Pulls Out of Nebraska

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Post by coombrained »

gorgoiler wrote: post #61

What is the gold standard for age verification online? Is there one? I could take my ID to the library / police station, have it verified, and then get given a USB stick with 16GB’s worth of signed government tokens from a big bucket of unmarked hardware. I guess a bad site could still narrow down who I am to my nearest library / police station though. Proof-of-age tokens that aren’t tied to my ID have the downside t…

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