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Panic at the Job Market

matt.sh

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Re: Panic at the Job Market

#71

Wild that explanations of the tech job market like this are still being written without referencing the tax consequences of Section 174 changes.

On the other hand, how would anyone have heard about this? This is the very first time I'm hearing anything about Section 174.

Plus, this doesn't really explain Europe's tech sector dumping, since from a quick search this is entirely an American thing.

So maybe you're just as wrong as anyone else?

Re: Panic at the Job Market

#72
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That's hilarious! I wish there were some way to reliably tell if an LLM is scraping your site. It would be great fun to present a different page to LLMs than to humans.

Serve different content based on user agent? Edit: I suppose Cloudflare's solution is the short term fix based on replies: https://blog.cloudflare.com/declaring-your-aindependence-blo...

Nearly all browsers, scrapers, etc use the same user agent these days. Tools such as curl and wget are the only ones that come to mind off the top of the head that don't do that out of the box.

Re: Panic at the Job Market

#73

I will add my two cents for people who believe that this might be related only to the SWE and tangent industries: It's really not. I have many friends (in Europe) who are trying to get through to different jobs in unrelated industries ranging from finance to fashion, or just trying to get promoted vertically (or horizontally), failing rather miserably. Most jobs are now hoops after hoops, not taking into consideratio…

Brave new world man. I am lucky I am where I am, but I am wondering how far away from the axe I currently stand. They need me now.. because we are in the midst of high stakes project, but later..

How old are you?

Re: Panic at the Job Market

#74

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You probably have a job right now.

To me, laid off twice in 18 months, currently three months unemployed, engaging daily with the Sisyphean madness that is finding a tech job in 2024, the author's darkly humorous, off-the-cuff style resonated deeply.

Given the attention it's getting here, I can only presume I'm not alone.

Re: Panic at the Job Market

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> As far as I can tell, the “behavioral interview” is essentially the same as a Scientology intake session except, you know, for capitalism instead. You have to answer the same 8 questions at every interview around “so what would you do if you had a conflict at work?” where the interviewer treats you like a 5 year old learning about people for the first time instead of acknowledging you as a professional with 0.5, 1,…

Yea, seriously. Much like how people complain about fizzbuzz until they see how many people can't do that, the amount of candidates where basic "so tell me about how you approached a major design decision not going the way you wanted" question had them essentially admitting to being vengeful and petty is weirdly high. Or people when asked how they dealt with a junior engineer who put in a messy PR essentially recount how they traumatized a new kid.

Re: Panic at the Job Market

#77

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Yah I had no idea where that came from. Assume 250 working day in a year that’s…$1.25 - $2.5 million per year. At a tractor manufacturer. It was probably a typo, with extra zero. they probably meant $500-$1000 per day. That would be $125k-$250k which seems much more reasonable

It's not a typo. The author alludes to these inflated salaries several times. Examples: "while other people who just picked a better company to work at 20 years ago and never left have been growing their wealth by a couple million dollars per year every year for almost their entire career" "What is it like to join a company where all the co-workers your same age have made $10+ million over the past 4 years while you…

I can't tell if the author is being funny / hyperbolic or has never looked at levels.fyi.

Google pays basically the same salary as a series A startup would (ie: $150 - $180k / yr). Yes, you'll get your salary again in stock but you aren't necessarily getting left behind by choosing to punch lottery tickets because you enjoy it.

People need to, and I need to say this to myself too, smell the roses occasionally. You are paid an absurdly comfortable salary to basically solve puzzles all day. The meetings and people can suck occasionally but I can't imagine a much better life if I have to work for a living.

Re: Panic at the Job Market

#78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yah I had no idea where that came from. Assume 250 working day in a year that’s…$1.25 - $2.5 million per year. At a tractor manufacturer. It was probably a typo, with extra zero. they probably meant $500-$1000 per day. That would be $125k-$250k which seems much more reasonable

It's not a typo. The author alludes to these inflated salaries several times. Examples: "while other people who just picked a better company to work at 20 years ago and never left have been growing their wealth by a couple million dollars per year every year for almost their entire career" "What is it like to join a company where all the co-workers your same age have made $10+ million over the past 4 years while you…

That's the main point that make the article harder to read. Some of it is obvious hyperbole but some is just too much.

Re: Panic at the Job Market

#79

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It’s because they are writing for the masses. What happened to professional writing? This:

    “When The Wealth of Nations was first published in March 1776 David Hume wrote to his old friend in terms of the greatest praise, while qualifying his hopes by remarking that ‘the reading of it necessarily requires so much attention, and the public is disposed to give so little, that I shall still doubt for some time of its being at first very popular’. (Corr., letter 150.) Strahan, Smith’s publisher, wrote very much in the same vein when commenting that the sales of the book had been much more ‘than I could have expected from a work that requires much thought and reflection (qualities that do not abound among modern readers) to peruse to any purpose’. (Corr., p. 193 n.)”

    Excerpt From
    The Wealth of Nations Books I-III
    Adam Smith
Are people on HN wiser than the general populace? If they are, I imagine the wisest of them must be lurkers.

Re: Panic at the Job Market

#80
While not a solution to everything wrong with the job market, making posting of ghost jobs a criminal felony would instantly eliminate that problem. It's only done because it's something that has no downside or cost for the employers and pushes endless hardships on job seekers. It's basically a form of wage theft from people who didn't even agree to work for you. The pearl clutchers will react to this with horror because despite all virtue signaling about how much they care about labor issues, when it comes to there being actual real-world consequences to the capital class for abusing the labor class, all that concern rapidly evaporates, and their false virtue is exposed for what it really is.
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