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Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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Post by aceazzameen »

wtallis wrote: post #6

Microsoft makes it a pain, but you can still jump through some CLI hoops to use only a local user account to log in to Windows, rather than the cloud-conmected Microsoft account they try to funnel you into. Not logging into a Microsoft account prevents OneDrive from doing anything other than spamming you with notifications about how great it would be if you logged in and started using it. And you can still uninstall…

I'm working on a personal Win 11 Pro machine right now using a local account. I never made an online one. Also I wonder if I uninstalled OneDrive over a year ago, because I don't see OneDrive in File Explorer or Task Manager. I've had this laptop for over a year, so OneDrive has never returned in all the updates since.

Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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Post by whatever1 »

Meanwhile they have crippled the native file history and backup options of the OS.

I was desperate until I found an excellent multiplatform open source project for backups called Kopia!

Highly recommended, even entry level users can work with it.

Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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Post by behnamoh »

wtallis wrote: post #6

Microsoft makes it a pain, but you can still jump through some CLI hoops to use only a local user account to log in to Windows, rather than the cloud-conmected Microsoft account they try to funnel you into. Not logging into a Microsoft account prevents OneDrive from doing anything other than spamming you with notifications about how great it would be if you logged in and started using it. And you can still uninstall…

Most those changes will get reverted after the next Windows update…

Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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Post by TheRealPomax »

It'd be so nice if Windows went back to offering three tiers: home, which assumes you want to log in and get on with your life and you don't care what the defaults are as long as things just work(tm); Pro, which assumes you know what you want and doesn't give you that unless you ask for it; and Enterprise, which assumes you're made of money and it's literally several people's jobs to manage your windows installs org-wide.

So we can just buy Pro and know we're getting an OS that we can configure instead of an OS that gets hijacked by Microsoft every single windows update cycle.

Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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Post by spacebanana7 »

cjk2 wrote: post #16

Why the hell aren't the EU and the FTC suing the shit out of them for bundling, telemetry, lock in, gouging, shitty defaults?

Sadly I think the enthusiasm with which the market embraced this behaviour in mobile, console and IoT makes it legally difficult for Microsoft to be punished.

How can you penalise Microsoft for pushing OneDrive by default but not penalise Apple for iCloud? Should multiple backup providers be suggested at startup for economic fairness? Or should backups be disabled by default (potentially annoying consumers of mobile devices)?

Not saying it’s impossible for a skilled regulator to build a PC specific theory of harm but it’s hard. Potentially might need entirely new legislation.

Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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Post by behnamoh »

Sayrus wrote: post #69
Zardoz84 wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or just use a Linux distro and avoid all M$ shit

Unfortunately the world runs on Word and Excel and unless you want the even worse Office 365 experience, you often do need some M$.

While I love Word for academic writing, I’ve found Apple’s Keynote and Google Sheets superior alternatives to PowerPoint and Excel.

Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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Post by bee_rider »

Sayrus wrote: post #69
Zardoz84 wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or just use a Linux distro and avoid all M$ shit

Unfortunately the world runs on Word and Excel and unless you want the even worse Office 365 experience, you often do need some M$.

For now. The kids (incoming college students over the last couple years) like Google’s office suite better as far as I’ve seen.

Anyway, real documents are written in LaTeX.

Windows lives in this in-between space where it isn’t as easy Google/Apple stuff, but it isn’t as good as Linux. That gap is always closing.

Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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Post by malfist »

amanzi wrote: post #50

I'm all for hating on Microsoft for their continued destruction of the local Windows 11 experience, but I actually think this is a good decision. Assuming you're logging in with a Microsoft account, and assuming you have a OneDrive account, it's a better experience to set up the folder backup feature as early as possible in the set-up process. If you really don't want it, it's easy to undo. I still don't like being f…

I think a company, without my permission, copying my personal files to their server is the definition of not a good decision
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