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Very American to believe that small communities can solve this problem and to not even expect parliament to do anything. Parliament not doing anything is obviously a self-fulfilling prophecy, and small, local solutions to a tragedy of the commons.. I don't believe it'll work.
Again, the usual scarecrow of "internet is corrupting our kids and our minds"... The good excuse to push for population censorship and control. The truth is that the problem is coming from the social society that we prefer to ignore: education collapsing, government and political world having arms wide open to dictatorship when it benefits to them,... Just to remember that a few decades ago, same kind of persons were…
> Just to remember that a few decades ago, same kind of persons were stating that books and free press are responsible for all of the moral corruption of the society I think you’re quite confused on this point.
For example, the Catholic Church established its Index of Prohibited Books way back in 1560, and it remained in effect until 1966.
(this is not a criticism of the Catholic Church specifically, mind you... most faiths had similar restrictions, and many still do).
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> Just to remember that a few decades ago, same kind of persons were stating that books and free press are responsible for all of the moral corruption of the society I think you’re quite confused on this point.
I don't think the previous commenter is confused at all. For example, the Catholic Church established its Index of Prohibited Books way back in 1560, and it remained in effect until 1966. (this is not a criticism of the Catholic Church specifically, mind you... most faiths had similar restrictions, and many still do).
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There is a major political party in the US wanting to dismantle education https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025
I'm not sure what you mean by that. The article you linked says they plan to remove federal involvement in education, delegating that responsibility back to the states. From my perhaps naive viewpoint, decentralizing government education seems like it would allow more competing ideas and approaches into classrooms. It's not clear to me why this approach would dismantle education. Why do you think this approach would…
Is it that hard to foresee what’ll happen if Louisiana et al started teaching children that the earth is 6000 years old, evolution is a farce, the US is a Christian nation, and also don’t worry about learning much outside of our immediate local (failing) economy?
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There is a major political party in the US wanting to dismantle education https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025
Disgusting and scary as it is, this is in no way part of the mainstream GOP
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> Just to remember that a few decades ago, same kind of persons were stating that books and free press are responsible for all of the moral corruption of the society I think you’re quite confused on this point.
I don't think the previous commenter is confused at all. For example, the Catholic Church established its Index of Prohibited Books way back in 1560, and it remained in effect until 1966. (this is not a criticism of the Catholic Church specifically, mind you... most faiths had similar restrictions, and many still do).
There are religious bookbanners today and they have very little overlap with the anti-social media crowd.
As someone who's not neurotypical and grew up in the 1990s I don't think we really did much for mental illness or have much of understanding of it until the past 15 or so years. Growing up the school system regarded people are disabled, learning disabled, lazy, normal, or gifted. There was no one checking kids out for social-anxiety, bipolar disorder, depression, etc. unless there was an extremely serious problem wit…
"Not neurotypical" is a very wide category, and the vast majority of such were neither locked up nor given lobotomies.
On the other hand, ADHD kids in the 1990s were indeed forcibly medicated, as in, some schools coerced parents to give Ritalin to their child in order to attend school. IDEA 2004 included the 'Prohibition on Mandatory Medication' to prevent schools from doing that: https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/34/300.174 .
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I don't think the previous commenter is confused at all. For example, the Catholic Church established its Index of Prohibited Books way back in 1560, and it remained in effect until 1966. (this is not a criticism of the Catholic Church specifically, mind you... most faiths had similar restrictions, and many still do).
Sure, and those are not “the same kind of people” with the same motives nor rationale nor basis in knowledge as the people advocating for constraints around social media in the present day. There are religious bookbanners today and they have very little overlap with the anti-social media crowd.
I guess we're going to have to agree to disagree on that. To me it doesn't matter whether there's any actual overlap between the groups. It's the censorious impulse they share. Believing that they have the right to make this type of decision for others is what makes them the "same kind of people".
My opinion is that it’s just partisan gerrymandering creating safe districts is pushing our politics towards the extremes as both parties run far left and far right candidates in their safe district primary. It gives us candidates out of touch with the overall electorate and unable to compromise.
Partisan gerrymandering doesn’t affect senate or presidential elections (with the small exception of Nebraska and Maine’s electors) yet those elections have also become more partisan and polarized. Moreover, the growing rural/urban partisan polarization means even non gerrymandered districts that are created by nonpartisan panels or algorithms are frequently left or right polarized. Creating competitive districts wou…