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OpenAI Selects Oracle Cloud Infrastructure to Extend Microsoft Azure AI Platform

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Re: OpenAI Selects Oracle Cloud Infrastructure to Extend Microsoft Azure AI Platform

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God speed, OCI is a pile of garbage. Once had them delete every single one of our production servers in the middle of the work day (in the hundreds of instances) due to an uncaught billing error. Triage took over 3 three days and there was a significant amount of lost customer data and financial impact. I wouldn't recommend OCI if they were the last cloud provider on earth.

> Triage took over 3 three days

were their billing reminders going to your spam folder or something?

Re: OpenAI Selects Oracle Cloud Infrastructure to Extend Microsoft Azure AI Platform

#72

Oracle Cloud is a bad product and I wouldn't recommend. I'm guessing Oracle practically gifted OpenAI compute to make this possible and that this announcement is the whole purpose (i.e. "look at us, we're equal to AWS/Azure!!! OpenAI runs here!!!"). Oracle and Google Cloud have been doing this stuff constantly .

I've run large GPU clusters on OCI, quite happily. The hardware and interconnects are very good - NVIDIA has a good relationship with them because they are one of the clouds not making their own silicon. GPU clusters are Oracle's path to breaking into top tier of the clouds and IMO they do it well.

It's the high-level services where OCI is worth avoiding. Even core tech like object storage has been a problem.

Re: OpenAI Selects Oracle Cloud Infrastructure to Extend Microsoft Azure AI Platform

#73
post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it is because they are significantly cheaper than the alternatives.

Oracle? Oracle is the most expensive at everything. There were consultants specializing in optimizing Oracle bills way before they existed for AWS.

Last I looked, their core IaaS services (compute, storage, networking) were cheaper than AWS.

Re: OpenAI Selects Oracle Cloud Infrastructure to Extend Microsoft Azure AI Platform

#74
post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it is because they are significantly cheaper than the alternatives.

Oracle? Oracle is the most expensive at everything. There were consultants specializing in optimizing Oracle bills way before they existed for AWS.

You haven’t ever compared costs of IaaS across clouds. For those that do that regularly, OCI is often half the cost of their competitors for typical compute, storage and networking workloads.

Re: OpenAI Selects Oracle Cloud Infrastructure to Extend Microsoft Azure AI Platform

#75
post #69

On their conference call tonight, Larry Ellison indicated Oracle will be building a dedicated data center for OpenAI to use for training, with 1 GW of power, and its own power plant and DLC. Stocked with newest NVIDIA chips.

Why would OpenAI not build their own data center?

Running a data center comes with its own challenges. I imagine they don't want to be in the business of running data centers. Additionally running only 1 might have too much overhead.

Re: OpenAI Selects Oracle Cloud Infrastructure to Extend Microsoft Azure AI Platform

#76
post #8

God speed, OCI is a pile of garbage. Once had them delete every single one of our production servers in the middle of the work day (in the hundreds of instances) due to an uncaught billing error. Triage took over 3 three days and there was a significant amount of lost customer data and financial impact. I wouldn't recommend OCI if they were the last cloud provider on earth.

> Triage took over 3 three days were their billing reminders going to your spam folder or something?

No, internal on their side. Nothing to do with ours.

Re: OpenAI Selects Oracle Cloud Infrastructure to Extend Microsoft Azure AI Platform

#77
post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've found Oracle's free tier quite generous. I guess OpenAI does as well.

It's sort of like a crack dealer's free tier. You know it's going to end miserably but you just can't help yourself.

Where do live that people are giving away crack?

Re: OpenAI Selects Oracle Cloud Infrastructure to Extend Microsoft Azure AI Platform

#78

Oracle Cloud is a bad product and I wouldn't recommend. I'm guessing Oracle practically gifted OpenAI compute to make this possible and that this announcement is the whole purpose (i.e. "look at us, we're equal to AWS/Azure!!! OpenAI runs here!!!"). Oracle and Google Cloud have been doing this stuff constantly .

I've run large GPU clusters on OCI, quite happily. The hardware and interconnects are very good - NVIDIA has a good relationship with them because they are one of the clouds not making their own silicon. GPU clusters are Oracle's path to breaking into top tier of the clouds and IMO they do it well. It's the high-level services where OCI is worth avoiding. Even core tech like object storage has been a problem.

Open Container Initiative?

Re: OpenAI Selects Oracle Cloud Infrastructure to Extend Microsoft Azure AI Platform

#79
post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've run large GPU clusters on OCI, quite happily. The hardware and interconnects are very good - NVIDIA has a good relationship with them because they are one of the clouds not making their own silicon. GPU clusters are Oracle's path to breaking into top tier of the clouds and IMO they do it well. It's the high-level services where OCI is worth avoiding. Even core tech like object storage has been a problem.

Open Container Initiative?

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