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Re: Stop Using Discord

#71
post #13

Where is the Wordpress.com (i.e. commercial hosting) for forums? I maintain a SMF forum that's lasted since 2000, but I get why most people aren't jumping into creating a new forum, because it's rather tedious compared to Discord. Hell, better ask instead; where is the Discord but for forums (real ones, not Discord)?

Circle?

Re: Stop Using Discord

#72
post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you are offline on IRC you don't get messages. I use a bouncer etc but that's more than the average person should have to worry about. There is https://www.irccloud.com/ but I fear it's too little too late Having to create an account on every IRC server is also not great. I use and love IRC, but I get why centralised services take off. It's just a shame it's a sucky one like discord where everything just goes into…

Not getting messages when I'm offline is a feature.

Nah it's annoying when someone joins and people have to re-explain what we were just talking about

Re: Stop Using Discord

#73
post #26

I don't like Discord as much as the next person, but people use Discord because it's convenient. Why do people prefer Discord to IRC when the latter is free, open source, and indexable?

> but people use Discord because it's convenient.

This is it. The brain is wired to expend the least amount of energy possible. Online communities of the past were held up by the few. Those willing to do the work.

Re: Stop Using Discord

#74
post #28
post #2

The rest of the quote: > Stop using Discord for anything else than just chatting. Stop dumping knowledge into a black hole. Use forums. Use the open web. Future nerds will thank you.

This is the key part here. There's nothing wrong with using Discord to chat about random stuff. If you're talking to your friends about your latest night out or playing online games with a community, then Discord is fine. The issue is how some communities use it as a wiki, documentation and forum replacement for information that should be available on the public internet. This is a huge problem for speedrunning and m…

This is untrue. Talking to friends in DM on non-e2ee platforms normalizes ubiquitous surveillance of friendship interactions and makes all of society worse.

Don’t be reachable on non-e2ee DM systems. Delete your account.

Re: Stop Using Discord

#75

Ok... does Mastodon always take that long too load? That's not really viable considering the page I ended up on had essentially only textual content - like an old website from way back. Then I read a Geocities suggestion - something from my elementary days Discord is actually pretty cool - a walled garden but no different than the rest of the internet. Google won't send anyone to forums or blogs/personal sites anyway…

No, I think it's the instance

Re: Stop Using Discord

#76
post #2

The rest of the quote: > Stop using Discord for anything else than just chatting. Stop dumping knowledge into a black hole. Use forums. Use the open web. Future nerds will thank you.

Some people like "privacy" or rather - natural emphemeral communication. Discord is instead... a living shared community memory?

Re: Stop Using Discord

#77

I use Discord quite a bit in the Elixir community and find it quite useful. Messages are persisted. There's a wonderful forum feature now built into the platform; and it's all searchable with a pretty robust filtering mechanism. And with an active server, there's typically always someone around to help you chat through a problem almost immediately. I understand the sentiment, but it does seem misinformed. Slack, on t…

A single example of it being done well doesn't have any bearing on all the issues stemming from the use of Discord as knowledge bases, wikis and documentation.

Out of curiosity, is any of that useful information on the Elixir Discord available to be searched for with Google or any other search engine?

Re: Stop Using Discord

#78
post #13

Where is the Wordpress.com (i.e. commercial hosting) for forums? I maintain a SMF forum that's lasted since 2000, but I get why most people aren't jumping into creating a new forum, because it's rather tedious compared to Discord. Hell, better ask instead; where is the Discord but for forums (real ones, not Discord)?

discourse has a few commercial hosting platforms. communiteq is one i’ve used.

I use communiteq for my website’s hosted forum and am happy with them.

Re: Stop Using Discord

#79

I use Discord quite a bit in the Elixir community and find it quite useful. Messages are persisted. There's a wonderful forum feature now built into the platform; and it's all searchable with a pretty robust filtering mechanism. And with an active server, there's typically always someone around to help you chat through a problem almost immediately. I understand the sentiment, but it does seem misinformed. Slack, on t…

I don’t think the sentiment is misinformed.

I understand your position and I’ve had pleasant experiences on discord in the past with people being very willing to help. However, the help I received for my problem is basically impossible to discovered for anybody else (in fact, I have a hard time finding this thread myself).

Discord is really great for realtime interactions, wether that be chatting or talking. But it absolutely sucks at retrieving information generated in the past. It’s not search engine indexable and the discord search itself usually isn’t of any help either.

On conventional forums on the other hand, I have learned so much from reading threads from the past. Recently I’ve been diving a bit deeper into construction and I’ve found a forum in my native language. There are so many treasures there: experts from the field sharing experiences and advising on issues, people linking relevant threads, people asking questions and whole threads evolving from that. Sure, there is quite a bit of „toxic“ forum interaction as well, but there are so many gems that would absolutely be undiscoverable if the same interactions would happen on discord

Re: Stop Using Discord

#80

Ok... does Mastodon always take that long too load? That's not really viable considering the page I ended up on had essentially only textual content - like an old website from way back. Then I read a Geocities suggestion - something from my elementary days Discord is actually pretty cool - a walled garden but no different than the rest of the internet. Google won't send anyone to forums or blogs/personal sites anyway…

Mastodon is decentralized / federated, so the page load time depends on the instance you're visiting.
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