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After Furiosa flops, Hollywood could be facing a biblically disastrous summer

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My perspective is likely skewed on this because of an anxiety disorder I'm still learning to deal with properly. But I wonder how widespread this mechanism I'm dealing with is. It basically goes like this:

The world is freaking terrifying. Social media makes you constantly aware of this from the minute you wake up to the minute you fall asleep. All other media channels (which seem to largely hang off of or reference social media trends anyhow) aren't much better. Its literally impossible to escape. Constant argument, aggression, threat, and doom.

Some kinds of brains cope with this by diving headfirst into fantasy realms. Disconnecting from reality by attempting to swap it for a different one. Video games, movies, anime, rpgs etc. Huge with that crowd.

Other kinds of brains like mine, simply shut everything the hell out. Scripted drama becomes an uncomfortable reminder of the impending doom that you're already drowning in. Alternate realities can become just another trigger.

I hardly watch TV, or movies. I write code pretty much. That's my escape because while there may be frustration, there is no aggression, no conflict, no drama. I imagine less nerdy people probably take up other crafts or hobbies.

granted. seeing through my own lens. But I also know I can't be the only one coping this way. I wonder if that also isn't part of a larger trend.

Re: After Furiosa flops, Hollywood could be facing a biblically disastrous summer

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I’ve seen a lot of explanations for this, but talking to most people my age, there’s only one that’s the real reason: the economics are terrible for watching a movie. The tickets are averaging $20-30 per person around where I live. In 2018, the same movies cost $7-13. Parking and food push the costs even higher. All for a couple of hours of entertainment. I can watch the same movie for $20 when it comes out on DVD. I…

If you're a regular movie goer, you can get a monthly pass for a little over $20 at the big theater chains. It pays off if you see 2 movies a month, or just 1 if it's IMAX.

There's rarely if ever two movies a month I'm interested in watching let alone going to the theater to watch. Even if there were the ancillary costs for going to the theater push those costs up.

Theaters have to compete with my living room. I don't even have some crazy setup but I have a big screen and comfortable seating. I can not turn the audio volume to deafening levels. I can pause if I need to use the bathroom. I also have access to food and drinks that don't cost a small fortune.

Back when watching a movie at home meant a VCR connected to a 13" TV with an iffy coax signal, a theater was a very good option. Unfortunately for theaters my home option has gotten better and their offerings have gotten worse. At the very least their offerings have diverged from my interests.

Re: After Furiosa flops, Hollywood could be facing a biblically disastrous summer

#73
Sequels, prequels, adaptations from other media, known stories, that is most that have been produced in the last years or decades. With that there are no surprises, no new stories, not a lot of innovation, people get bored or not interested, specially after a few hopeful tries that ended in deception, specially after a big media push.

Making movies are seen as an investment that must have a sure return, there is no risk taking, not a lot of new approaches, and they won't end in black swans but in some variant of diminishing returns. The most surprising thing is that they are getting surprised by the outcome of this kind of approach.

Re: After Furiosa flops, Hollywood could be facing a biblically disastrous summer

#74

I’ve seen a lot of explanations for this, but talking to most people my age, there’s only one that’s the real reason: the economics are terrible for watching a movie. The tickets are averaging $20-30 per person around where I live. In 2018, the same movies cost $7-13. Parking and food push the costs even higher. All for a couple of hours of entertainment. I can watch the same movie for $20 when it comes out on DVD. I…

Or stream it once for $4.99 or less if you're patient and are willing to wait a couple months after Blu-ray/streaming release. It seems like after Endgame, there have only been a few 'event' movies like Oppenheimer, Top Gun Maverick, and Dune 2 that would be worth experiencing in a movie theater. And even then, those movies are pushing 95-100 dB during some scenes, making me not really want to do the 'IMAX' experienc…

Yep. I can watch it in a dirty, noisy theater where I have to wear earplugs to be comfortable, or I can watch it at home a few months later from the comfort of my recliner with a couple IPAs and a bowl of popcorn.

The only movies I reserve for the theater are real epics, and those seem few and far between these days.

Re: After Furiosa flops, Hollywood could be facing a biblically disastrous summer

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post #39
post #13

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Go see Furiosa! It's not quite as incredible as Fury Road, but it's pretty darn great, and it's the exact kind of movie you should see in the cinema. Feeling the rumble in the chair from the sound system while watching is honestly thrilling. I realize we all have excellent TVs and sound systems at home now, but the cinema is still worth it, and especially for movies like Furiosa that were just made to be experienced…

I actually liked it better than Fury Road. I think I didn't reflect enough during Fury Road to try and understand the world. I dismissed it as kinda silly and figured i should just suspend disbelief, but Furiosa does a bit more handholding and gives all the background and depth Fury Road hints toward. Rewatching Fury Road after Furiosa helped me appreciate it more. Watching at home is such a diminished experience com…

Furiosa may be thematically stronger than Fury Road.

I was about to write “the character work and character-writing might be better, too” but then I remembered Nux. It’s a close call.

Re: After Furiosa flops, Hollywood could be facing a biblically disastrous summer

#76
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Yeah this is most likely the wrong movie to blame. Fury Road was IMHO the blockbuster movie of the 2010s. I didn't have time yet but very much looking forward to see what George Miller has cooked up this time around!

Fury Road was certainly not a cash grab, but a prequel to the blockbuster of the 10s except with a female lead definitely smells like a cash grab.

What a female lead has to do with it?

Re: After Furiosa flops, Hollywood could be facing a biblically disastrous summer

#77
post #5

The solution is painfully obvious for anyone who isn't actually involved in milking every last red cent out of media: make movies people actually want to see, and not just shameless cash grabs recycling everything from 1980 onward. Of course, now every suit expects every movie to gross a billion dollars, so that's not going to happen. It's a fun dream, though.

The Super Mario Brothers and Barbie movies were big successes. Lots of other cash grabs make money too. But the movies that are coming out now were greenlit years ago, during the era when Marvel showed you could print money with just any lazy movies. Things are different now, but this one was already finished.

Re: After Furiosa flops, Hollywood could be facing a biblically disastrous summer

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post #31

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Is Furiosa a cash grab? I haven't seen it yet but Fury Road was anything but.

Fury Road made sense. The fact that Furiosa is set in between the original Mad Max and the time of Fury Road kinda says "cash grab" to me. No real logical reason to insert this fifth film between films 1 and 4 other than "we don't know how to continue the storyline with something new, so let's just bridge the gaps".

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Re: After Furiosa flops, Hollywood could be facing a biblically disastrous summer

#79
post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is Furiosa a cash grab? I haven't seen it yet but Fury Road was anything but.

Yeah this is most likely the wrong movie to blame. Fury Road was IMHO the blockbuster movie of the 2010s. I didn't have time yet but very much looking forward to see what George Miller has cooked up this time around!

It gets blame because the massive budget

Hollywood can’t make great smaller movies like that anymore without spending $100M which raises the stakes and it also comes with a ton of studio baggage afraid of any sort of risk

Re: After Furiosa flops, Hollywood could be facing a biblically disastrous summer

#80
Hollywood is in a decline for years and pushing politics and ideology in each and every movie didn't help either.

People are just fed up by this nonsense and don't watch it anymore. A similar thing is (finally) happening in the gaming space, too.

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