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Re: How to Turn Off AI Overview in Google and Set "Web" as Default

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Post by TheAceOfHearts »

jsheard wrote: post #10

Your loss, I will keep expanding my brain with the wisdom of Googles powerful AI https://imgur.com/a/g4qOU9a

Do you think anyone at Google even feels guilty or responsible about shipping this garbage or will they still receive a big fat bonus for shipping something? I understand that Google is probably under pressure due to all the AI-hype, but surely there must be someone on the inside that could call out this trash for what it is? Has the organization become so fully captured by psychopaths such that common sense is no longer able to prevail?

Re: How to Turn Off AI Overview in Google and Set "Web" as Default

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Post by NayamAmarshe »

surfingdino wrote: post #37
mtu wrote: post #16

Adding to the litany of bad google ideas from the past 10+ years: - Killing google reader - Pointless UI changes - Multiple chat and videocall apps that cannibalize each other. - Stadia fiasco - Shoving AI down our throats in their MAIN PRODUCT What's the source of this rot? I have a friend at google who says the place is filled with smart people competing with each other. Perhaps this competition fuels a chaotic lac…

Wall St wants to see them keeping up with the latest tech. That's why Apple put billions into VR and we will hear nothing of it in 12-24 months. Another reason is talent retention/acquisition. AI will be history in 12-24 months when the bubble bursts and we are left with a mountain of cheap GPUs.

AI bubble? I wouldn't expect it but would be interesting to see if your prediction holds true.

Re: How to Turn Off AI Overview in Google and Set "Web" as Default

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Post by runiq »

mtu wrote: post #16

Adding to the litany of bad google ideas from the past 10+ years: - Killing google reader - Pointless UI changes - Multiple chat and videocall apps that cannibalize each other. - Stadia fiasco - Shoving AI down our throats in their MAIN PRODUCT What's the source of this rot? I have a friend at google who says the place is filled with smart people competing with each other. Perhaps this competition fuels a chaotic lac…

> What's the source of this rot?

Google: Promotions as a Service

Re: How to Turn Off AI Overview in Google and Set "Web" as Default

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Post by Rebelgecko »

jsheard wrote: post #10

Your loss, I will keep expanding my brain with the wisdom of Googles powerful AI https://imgur.com/a/g4qOU9a

Can you share the prompts you used to generate these results? I'm having a hard time replicating just by guessing what they were (full disclosure I work for Google but not on this)

Re: How to Turn Off AI Overview in Google and Set "Web" as Default

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Post by fallingsquirrel »

EGreg wrote: post #62
12_throw_away wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google may return different results at different times

Let me know if you ever get a result that's as wildly incorrect as those

This WSJ article has lots of examples.

https://archive.is/20220817223004/https://www.wsj.com/articl...

Re: How to Turn Off AI Overview in Google and Set "Web" as Default

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Post by al_borland »

nicklecompte wrote: post #51
jsheard wrote: post #10

Your loss, I will keep expanding my brain with the wisdom of Googles powerful AI https://imgur.com/a/g4qOU9a

Jesus, that kidney stones one is bad :( It's funny when the LLM totally checks out of reality, but not at all funny when the statement seems plausible to ignorant people. (A lot people seem to subscribe to an ideology of "dumb people get what they deserve." What this really means to me is "I have Dunning-Kruger syndrome," but I wonder how much of that gets filtered down into making excuses for AI that sucks so badly…

If I already know the answer to something, why would I be looking it up? These answers from AI should assume the person on the other end doesn’t know anything and isn’t going to fact check. If they were going to fact check, they’d just look it up in the first place and not waste their time with AI.

To me, a real sign of intelligence and maturity is being able to say, “I don’t know.” I always lose a lot of respect for people when I catch them making up answers to questions they can’t answer. It means I can’t trust anything they say. If I’m not willing to accept this behavior from a person in my life, why would I accept it from a machine?

Re: How to Turn Off AI Overview in Google and Set "Web" as Default

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Post by izacus »

mtu wrote: post #16

Adding to the litany of bad google ideas from the past 10+ years: - Killing google reader - Pointless UI changes - Multiple chat and videocall apps that cannibalize each other. - Stadia fiasco - Shoving AI down our throats in their MAIN PRODUCT What's the source of this rot? I have a friend at google who says the place is filled with smart people competing with each other. Perhaps this competition fuels a chaotic lac…

The Google stock is at record value. Google revenue is at record value. Google profit is at record value.

You seem to be operating on a concept of "good ideas" that are disconnected from what the owners of Google (= stockholders) want.

Google is still performing exceedingly well for what their owners want. Always follow the money.

Re: How to Turn Off AI Overview in Google and Set "Web" as Default

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Post by berkes »

tmpz22 wrote: post #59
shombaboor wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

literally, how does anyone find this acceptable? It makes me feel dumb that I find this outrageous, like the emperor's new clothes: y'all can see this too right?

> how does anyone find this acceptable? Many in the tech community have high expectations for Google engineering quality and product development. The expectations are now too high, much like the executives who pushed this feature.

> Many in the tech community have high expectations for Google engineering quality and product development

Wait? Whom has these expectations? I presumed most in the tech industry scoff at anything Google launches, point at Google Graveyard or at all the failures they've been through.

Seriously: aside from search, ads and android, what product has Google developed ever that is of high quality and meeting the high quality? Maybe maps at some point? Gmail, maybe? Google docs? For each and every google product, I can name two competitors that meet much higher expectations of engineering.

Re: How to Turn Off AI Overview in Google and Set "Web" as Default

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Post by name_nick_sex_m »

TheAceOfHearts wrote: post #71
jsheard wrote: post #10

Your loss, I will keep expanding my brain with the wisdom of Googles powerful AI https://imgur.com/a/g4qOU9a

Do you think anyone at Google even feels guilty or responsible about shipping this garbage or will they still receive a big fat bonus for shipping something? I understand that Google is probably under pressure due to all the AI-hype, but surely there must be someone on the inside that could call out this trash for what it is? Has the organization become so fully captured by psychopaths such that common sense is no lo…

The hierarchy is too strong. Subordinate Googlers cannot really challenge anyone in their leadership chain. That leaves Siblings to challenge each other, which doesn't really happen either. (VPs either can't check other VPs, or don't give a f** about doing so)
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