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Re: iTerm2 3.5.0

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Post by swiftcoder »

joshstrange wrote: post #69
swiftcoder wrote: post #32

So what are the good Mac-centric alternatives for folks who don't want OpenAI snooping around their terminal? Warp already went all-in on AI and cloud, now iTerm headed down that same path. Alacritty? Kitty? Hyper?

You can just not turn it on. This is the most mild AI integration of any recent terminal I’ve seen. Also you can set the url from what other commenters are saying so you can use a local LLM if you want. This manufactured outrage is absurd. iTerm2 has been the most solid and conservative terminal I’ve ever used and people are pretending they jumped the shark with this feature.

Much like with the whole "web3" crypto craze before it, I think it behooves us to push back pretty loudly on everyone who buys into the grift-of-the-week.

Nobody actually believes OpenAI is giving away billions of dollars in free compute just so we don't have to memorize awk syntax...

Re: iTerm2 3.5.0

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Post by hombre_fatal »

swiftcoder wrote: post #71
joshstrange wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can just not turn it on. This is the most mild AI integration of any recent terminal I’ve seen. Also you can set the url from what other commenters are saying so you can use a local LLM if you want. This manufactured outrage is absurd. iTerm2 has been the most solid and conservative terminal I’ve ever used and people are pretending they jumped the shark with this feature.

Much like with the whole "web3" crypto craze before it, I think it behooves us to push back pretty loudly on everyone who buys into the grift-of-the-week. Nobody actually believes OpenAI is giving away billions of dollars in free compute just so we don't have to memorize awk syntax...

Well, it's not free. You have to provide an API key to iTerm.

Re: iTerm2 3.5.0

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Post by ogotai »

News headline from May 2025 -

"Junior developer at exposed and then deleted all customer/citizen's data after enabling AI integration in popular IT tool 'iTerm', and allowing AI to 'Run commands automatically' on the systems."

And we'll do it to ourselves with our race to the bottom - clueless middle managers pushing for "more performance" and creating zero sum competition environments. If I were a junior dev today, I'd feel like I need to enable AI everywhere to compete and survive.

Re: iTerm2 3.5.0

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Post by megatavu »

swiftcoder wrote: post #32

So what are the good Mac-centric alternatives for folks who don't want OpenAI snooping around their terminal? Warp already went all-in on AI and cloud, now iTerm headed down that same path. Alacritty? Kitty? Hyper?

Nothing in the changelog indicated that “OpenAI is now snooping around”. There is an optional feature that you need to set up yourself if you want to use it. Why do you feel like you need to deliberately misunderstand the post as soon as you read the term “AI” somewhere?

Re: iTerm2 3.5.0

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Post by joshstrange »

The comments in this thread are depressing, I expected much better from HN.

The AI features are but 1 minor aspect of this release, they are optional, you can change the URL to point to a local LLM, yet people are pretending like all your data is going to be sent to OpenAI if you update.

I’m not sure if people are being intentionally daft or are just not reading anything past the word “AI” (which, again, isn’t even listed as the top feature of this release).

If you don’t want to use it, don’t put in an API key. It’s not like you are going to accidentally enable it.

iTerm2 is one of the most solid pieces of software in use on a daily basis. To the point that I often forget it’s not a default/included app. It has a million configuration options and it makes complete sense for them to /offer/ /optional/ AI/LLM features.

Re: iTerm2 3.5.0

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Post by hombre_fatal »

swiftcoder wrote: post #38
thiht wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Is it just me, or allowing hallucinations into my terminal a line that I am not willing to cross? Depends how you use it. For example, writing jq filters, or awk scripts, or some shell pipelines is always a bit of a pain. It's something where LLMs can really improve quality of life.

Or, you know, we could actually build approachable tools, instead of using AI to paper over the UX shortcomings of programs from the 80's...

All of the cli programs you use might have perfect, modern apis, but the issue is that the breadth of your workloads means that you can't memorize every cli program api across every case that pops up.

Consider any program or arguments you seldom use. Or come up with an api for ffmpeg that you think is optimally approachable and you'll see that it's so full-featured that you aren't going to keep it all fresh in your head when you use it every few months.

I'd rather let the computer do grunt work for me.

Re: iTerm2 3.5.0

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Post by benterix »

qmmmur wrote: post #15

I really just don’t want software to have these ai things in them. How long are they going to maintain it? If they want to allow extensibility for the explicit purpose of Llm integration then why not just… make an API?

I hate "AI integration" rubbish as much as everybody else. But in this case the author did it well - it's disabled by default, it won't work unless you decide to paste your key and so on.

Re: iTerm2 3.5.0

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Post by oneeyedpigeon »

joshstrange wrote: post #75

The comments in this thread are depressing, I expected much better from HN. The AI features are but 1 minor aspect of this release, they are optional, you can change the URL to point to a local LLM, yet people are pretending like all your data is going to be sent to OpenAI if you update. I’m not sure if people are being intentionally daft or are just not reading anything past the word “AI” (which, again, isn’t even l…

> I’m not sure if people are being intentionally daft or are just not reading anything past the word “AI”

I think this demonstrates the risks of jumping on a bandwagon. When software companies (in general, not iTerm2 specifically) overuse a term, including outright lying to attach a buzzword to basic features that are nothing to do with it, many people respond with an equal and opposite reaction: distrusting use of the term altogether.

Re: iTerm2 3.5.0

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Post by benterix »

swiftcoder wrote: post #32

So what are the good Mac-centric alternatives for folks who don't want OpenAI snooping around their terminal? Warp already went all-in on AI and cloud, now iTerm headed down that same path. Alacritty? Kitty? Hyper?

I probably hate "AI" more than you, but let's be fair: the author did well in this case - it's disabled and you need to actively enable it (for the 2 folks who actually want it). We should commend people for doing it this way rather than using grey patterns, calling home without consent (or without giving you any other option), forcing local apps to the cloud etc.

Re: iTerm2 3.5.0

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Post by leonaves »

jchoelt wrote: post #66

It's a shame their "OpenAI" integration doesn't let you specify the Base URL and model. Then it could have worked locally with ollama (or with any other OpenAI compatible API if that matters: mistral, groq, ...) It's a bit of a shame to see an open source product makes an "OpenAI" only integration when they could have make it work with minimal effort with the free and open alternatives (ignorance maybe). Hopefully I…

It literally does exactly that, what made you think it doesn't? Or did you just assume and type a comment based on nothing?
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