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Re: Shipbreaking

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Post by BLKNSLVR »

pjmorris wrote: post #60
BLKNSLVR wrote: post #5

I feel like the music marries well with the somewhat depressingly industrial hardcore work on display in the ship-breaking clips: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVm8G0ipETc (El Rodeo by Kyuss)

On the topic of music, I first learned of shipbreaking from Mark Knopfler's song, 'So Far from the Clyde.' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9OIucgb_4Q

To stray further off topic (because I like this tangent), both of my parents were fans of Dire Straits and I was too young to really get it, but I've been reminded of Dire Straits and Mark Knopfler three or four times in the last couple of weeks, and the more of his body of work I come across the more obvious the consistency of the quality in both music and poetry.

With a strong risk of hyperbole: The sound of a guitar string plucked by Mark Knopfler can't be mistaken for any other guitarist.

Re: Shipbreaking

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Post by pjmorris »

BLKNSLVR wrote: post #71
pjmorris wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On the topic of music, I first learned of shipbreaking from Mark Knopfler's song, 'So Far from the Clyde.' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9OIucgb_4Q

To stray further off topic (because I like this tangent), both of my parents were fans of Dire Straits and I was too young to really get it, but I've been reminded of Dire Straits and Mark Knopfler three or four times in the last couple of weeks, and the more of his body of work I come across the more obvious the consistency of the quality in both music and poetry. With a strong risk of hyperbole: The sound of a guit…

> The sound of a guitar string plucked by Mark Knopfler can't be mistaken for any other guitarist.

I'd say there's only a mild risk of hyperbole; he really does have a unique sound.

Re: Shipbreaking

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Post by Kerrick »

mattlondon wrote: post #68
CaptainOfCoit wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What in particular turned you off, the capitalistic nature of the story? From the Steam page, this is how the game publisher describes the game: > We offer you the privilege of helping turn humanity’s past into its future by salvaging ships in zero-g. Each one is a puzzle, and how you solve it is up to you! Carve your way in, salvage everything, and maximize your profit. Seems relatively vanilla, besides the capitali…

I am not sure really - I think there was a lot of strongly-accented "yee haw cowboy" type stuff from the NPC voices? Kinda wildwest in space? That is where my mind goes when I think of it, and I remember a distinct feeling of dislike.

Do you really have such a strong aversion towards regional American accents?

Re: Shipbreaking

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Post by yohannparis »

aredox wrote: post #39
TrackerFF wrote: post #29

One of my previous (job) tasks was to monitor larger vessels, and analyze where they'd end up getting torn apart. Turns out western shipping companies don't like paying western prices for that kind of work, and try to sneak the vessels down to India, Bangladesh, etc. where that kind of work is much cheaper. But with cheaper prices comes a host of issues, from the environmental effects, to human workers actually perfo…

The trajectory of the last French air carriers - the Foch and the Clémenceau - is a good illustration of the mess it can be, even for former military flagships. Those military ships are of course full of asbestos - more than usual - and heavy metals. The Clémenceau was supposed to be dismantled in Spain, but when the marine nationale saw it being towed to Turkey, they cancelled the contract and got it back. Then anot…

Merci for sharing this tragic part of French history. I wished budgets on such project included the dismantling of it at the end.

Re: Shipbreaking

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Post by MrMikardo93 »

I wrote a poem inspired by these images when I was 17 (over a decade ago!) which won second prize in a national competition. Seeing them again here takes me back.

Re: Shipbreaking

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Post by boringg »

Waterluvian wrote: post #65
tathagatadg wrote: post #59

This takes me to my childhood. My dad was an electrical engineer in India and worked at a ship repair dockyard. He once came back with a few shelves and cabinets for our kitchen. These were taken out of ships that were getting cut up in their dockyard. They were complete mismatches in aesthetics but it did not matter to his "why waste such functional ..." attitude. He was excited about what his "workers" could salvag…

I can only imagine the conditions his "workers" worked in back then given how poor the conditions still are today. I think scenes from ship breaking, electronics recycling, and other recycling efforts sent overseas could fit in, as-is, to a film like Blade Runner.

Those industries don't pay well to anyone involved but are a global benefit. Such a strange world we live in.

Re: Shipbreaking

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Post by spicybbq »

aredox wrote: post #39
TrackerFF wrote: post #29

One of my previous (job) tasks was to monitor larger vessels, and analyze where they'd end up getting torn apart. Turns out western shipping companies don't like paying western prices for that kind of work, and try to sneak the vessels down to India, Bangladesh, etc. where that kind of work is much cheaper. But with cheaper prices comes a host of issues, from the environmental effects, to human workers actually perfo…

The trajectory of the last French air carriers - the Foch and the Clémenceau - is a good illustration of the mess it can be, even for former military flagships. Those military ships are of course full of asbestos - more than usual - and heavy metals. The Clémenceau was supposed to be dismantled in Spain, but when the marine nationale saw it being towed to Turkey, they cancelled the contract and got it back. Then anot…

Alang is an interesting place to look at in Google maps. Make sure to check the street views.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Alang,+Gujarat,+India/@21....

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