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Re: Firefox search update

#72

> Innovation and privacy go hand in hand here at Mozilla [...] Rest assured, the way we gather these insights will always put user privacy first [...] Remember, you can always opt out of sending any technical or usage data to Firefox Wouldn't actually putting "user privacy first" lead to the conclusion that gathering insights like this shouldn't be done on a opt-out basis and instead be opt-in, at the very least? Per…

> Personally, I'd see "privacy first" as not needing to sell any user data at all, in the first place, but we're clearly beyond that already. That requires users paying, something often suggested, but I have not heard of working commercially for anything where a competitor can supply a user as the product alternate. Privacy just isn't that valuable.

I think a small fee subscription can be very attractive. Less than $5 a month. I already pay $5/month for better search experience. Sometimes Kagi finds things neither DDG nor Brave can.

Re: Firefox search update

#73

Just a shortcut for anybody trying to find it. "Remember, you can always opt out of sending any technical or usage data to Firefox. Here’s a step-by-step guide [0] on how to adjust your settings." --- 1. Click the [hamburger menu button] and select Settings. 2. Select the Privacy & Security panel. 3. Scroll down to the Firefox Data Collection and Use section. 4. Check or uncheck the box next to Allow Firefox to send…

I wonder if you'll have to remember to do this after each update, like you have to do for most of Chrome's unwanted and unwelcomed features.

It might be possible to disable this feature through a policy file [1] just like other features can be disabled, e.g. here's how to disable auto-update:

   {
   "policies": 
      {
        "DisableAppUpdate": true
       }
   }
Create a text file named policies.json in a directory named distribution inside the Firefox installation directory. In my case that ends up looking like this:

   /opt/APPfirefox (package root)
   /opt/APPfirefox/firefox (currrent nightly)
   /opt/APPfirefox/bin/firefox-127.0a1 -> /opt/APPfirefox/firefox/firefox-127.0a1
   /opt/APPfirefox/distribution/policies.json
The browser sees this file and abides by its contents. Open about:policies#documentation in Firefox to see which policies can be configured this way.

[1] https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/customizing-firefox-usi...

Re: Firefox search update

#74
post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This has nothing to do with what search engine you're using. It collects data about what you type in the search/URL bar.

I guess it's time to stop searching from the url bar (sorry, "awesomebar") and create a local html file as the startup and new tab page, with search boxes for all your fav engines. Just like the good old days.

You could even paste all your bookmarks into that page!

Re: Firefox search update

#75

Stuff like this makes me wonder why I still cling to Firefox instead of switching to one of the actually privacy-focused Chromium forks. I've been using Arkenfox to turn off all the telemetry/etc but it increasingly feels like a game of whackamole. https://github.com/arkenfox/user.js

For me, it's the support for ad-blockers that actually work, plus greasemonkey. But it's been awhile, and maybe I need to look again.

Re: Firefox search update

#76

Just a shortcut for anybody trying to find it. "Remember, you can always opt out of sending any technical or usage data to Firefox. Here’s a step-by-step guide [0] on how to adjust your settings." --- 1. Click the [hamburger menu button] and select Settings. 2. Select the Privacy & Security panel. 3. Scroll down to the Firefox Data Collection and Use section. 4. Check or uncheck the box next to Allow Firefox to send…

thanks for sharing - just found out you have to do this for each firefox profile if you have more than one.

Note says it takes 30 days for them to remove your data history.

I wonder if pihole or similar could just block the dns for this crap.

Re: Firefox search update

#77
post #12
post #8

Isn't this exactly what Google does in Chrome?

No. Your queries aren't send to Mozilla, just the broad categories. Chrome is sending full queries to Google.

Also you can opt out of this, unlike (I believe, correct me if I'm wrong) the Chrome telemetry.

Re: Firefox search update

#78
I don't even want my browser to support searching from the browser UI. If I want to send information to Google I'll visit their web page directly. I don't want to do it by a misclick.

It's surprisingly difficult to disable searching from the browser UI in Firefox. Firefox insists you have at least one search engine enabled at all times. The best option I know of is to set the undocumented setting "browser.urlbar.update2.engineAliasRefresh" to "true" in about:config, which enables an "Add" button in the Search preferences for adding custom search engines. You can then add a fake search engine on localhost that will always fail, and set this to be the only enabled search engine.

Re: Firefox search update

#79

> Innovation and privacy go hand in hand here at Mozilla [...] Rest assured, the way we gather these insights will always put user privacy first [...] Remember, you can always opt out of sending any technical or usage data to Firefox Wouldn't actually putting "user privacy first" lead to the conclusion that gathering insights like this shouldn't be done on a opt-out basis and instead be opt-in, at the very least? Per…

> Wouldn't actually putting "user privacy first" lead to the conclusion that gathering insights like this shouldn't be done on a opt-out basis and instead be opt-in, at the very least?

At the very least collection of non-anonymized data should be opt-in at most. So where is the problem?

Re: Firefox search update

#80

Just a shortcut for anybody trying to find it. "Remember, you can always opt out of sending any technical or usage data to Firefox. Here’s a step-by-step guide [0] on how to adjust your settings." --- 1. Click the [hamburger menu button] and select Settings. 2. Select the Privacy & Security panel. 3. Scroll down to the Firefox Data Collection and Use section. 4. Check or uncheck the box next to Allow Firefox to send…

It's a bit deceptive to claim you have a Privacy First policy when it's opt out. True privacy is not opt out, but opt in.

Anonymization isn't opt out.
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