The most impressive part is that the voice uses the right feelings and tonal language during the presentation. I'm not sure how much of that was that they had tested this over and over, but it is really hard to get that right so if they didn't fake it in some way I'd say that is revolutionary.
(I work at OpenAI.) It's really how it works.
GPT-4o
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#73Parsing emotions in vocal inflections (and reliably producing them in vocal output) seems quite under-hyped in this release. That seems to represent an entirely new depth of understanding of human reality.
Re: GPT-4o
#74Parts of the demo were quite choppy (latency?) so this definitely feels rushed in response to Google I/O. Other than that, looks good. Desktop app is great, but I didn’t see no mention of being able to use your own API key so OS projects might still be needed. The biggest thing is bringing GPT-4 to free users, that is an interesting move. Depending on what the limits are, I might cancel my subscription.
I’m pretty sure that wasn’t always the case - it feels like somewhere along the lines the allowed usage was reduced, unless I’m imagining it. It wouldn’t be such a big deal if there was more visibility of my current usage compared to my total “allowance”.
I ended up upgrading to ChatGPT Team which has a minimum of 2x users (I now use both accounts) but I resented having to do this - especially being forced to pay for two users just to meet their arbitrary minimum.
I feel like I should not be hitting limits on the ChatGPT Plus paid plan at all based on my usage patterns.
I haven’t hit any limits on the Team plan yet.
I hope they continue to improve the paid plans and become a bit more transparent about usage limits/caps. I really do not mind paying for this (incredible) tech, but the way it’s being sold currently is not quite right and feels like paid users get a bit of a raw deal in some cases.
I have API access but just haven’t found an open source client that I like using as much as the native ChatGPT apps yet.
Re: GPT-4o
#75Re: GPT-4o
#76Clicking the "Try it on ChatGPT" link just takes me to GPT-4 chat window. Tried again in an incognito tab (supposing my account is the issue) and it just takes me to 3.5 chat. Anyone able to use it?
Re: GPT-4o
#77Parts of the demo were quite choppy (latency?) so this definitely feels rushed in response to Google I/O. Other than that, looks good. Desktop app is great, but I didn’t see no mention of being able to use your own API key so OS projects might still be needed. The biggest thing is bringing GPT-4 to free users, that is an interesting move. Depending on what the limits are, I might cancel my subscription.
Seems like it was picking up on the audience reaction and stopping to listen. To me the more troubling thing was the apparent hallucination (saying it sees the equation before he wrote it, commenting on an outfit when the camera was down, describing a table instead of his expression), but that might have just been latency awkwardness. Overall, the fast response is extremely impressive, as is the new emotional dimensi…
- "What are you seeing now"
- "I'm showing this to you now"
etc.
The one time where he didn't prime the model to take a snapshot this way, was the time where the model saw the "table" (an old snapshot, since the phone was on the table/pointed at the table), so that might be the reason.
Re: GPT-4o
#78They are admitting[1] that the new model is the gpt2-chatbot that we have seen before[2]. As many highlighted there, the model is not an improvement like GPT3->GPT4. I tested a bunch of programming stuff and it was not that much better. It's interesting that OpenAI is highlighting the Elo score instead of showing results for many many benchmarks that all models are stuck at 50-70% success. [1] https://twitter.com/Lia…
Re: GPT-4o
#79The price of 4o is 50% of GPT4-Turbo (and no mention of price change to gp4-turbo itself). Given the competitive pressures I was expecting a much bigger price drop than that. For non-multimodal uses, I don't think their API is at all competitive any more.