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Re: Buying Adobe Photoshop CS6

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But it's not without its idiotic blunders. Topping the list is Apple's insistence that your user ID be an E-mail address. That's not just a bad idea, but it has resulted in untold numbers of people with numerous Apple IDs and content bought with all of them.

Which you can merge to the same account [edit: actually, no, you can just use in tandem]. But, really, how would that be different if the user ID was a random name? People could still have "numerous Apple IDs and content bought with all of them".

As far as I'm aware you can't merge Apple IDs and it has been said a few times that it isn't likely to happen, I might be wrong however.

If it does exist, do you happen to know the URL as I've been looking to do this for a while.

Re: Buying Adobe Photoshop CS6

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Oh, with Adobe there are different kinds of hell: "Adobe’s rep told me that she’s very sorry, but I simply cannot buy CS 5.5 via the website. I must have an American billing address, or else they can’t sell me the product. Can’t buy it on the site, big deal. But wait, the plot thickens." http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/adobe-actively-encouraging-inte... Or: Why are UK prices nearly double US prices? It's cheaper to fly…

This happens in all sort of markets. You charge based on the cost of living. I don't like it, but it happens. It is usually linked to a contractual obligation in the locality, which means they have to charge higher to support the costs of their local representatives.

Re: Buying Adobe Photoshop CS6

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I've been trying to buy Creative Cloud for the last month. And frankly I've given up. I've gone back to Pixelmator. I own CS3 and was entitled to the one year discount. However my account at adobe where my copy of CS3 is registered was created many years go and appears to be incompatible with their current systems. My account information says I'm from the USA, which is incorrect, I'm from Australia. So when I try to…

Hah, I was in a very similar situation to you last week, wanting to start a Photoshop subscription.

My first issue was that there were two descriptions of what happens when you cancel an annual subscription early. I thought about calling up to ask which one actually applied, but I couldn't stand the thought of fighting through a phone-menu/customer-service/hold dance to actually get an answer, and more importantly, I don't have any trust that the answer I would have received would have been correct anyway!

> Right, so I just assumed I'd login and change my country to Australia. Wrong!

The admin interface "worked" for me, but the problem is, you can't change your registered country anyway. I went round and round in circles, and would actually end up at the South African store regularly, for some reason. Not to mention that if you visit the business store, the Photoshop subscription plan isn't even present.

I was too lazy to bother calling them up to change it, so I just registered another account (I didn't have any previous purchases). Then I ran into the next problem: I had no idea how to actually download the program! The Adobe store redirected me to... a blank page. And in the 5 emails they sent me regarding the subscription there were no links to download the program. Somehow I discovered the Adobe Creative Cloud Client, which finally let me put in my login and download/install the software.

God help someone like my (artistically inclined) mother if she ever wanted to do the same. It really is amazing how a process can be so broken. It's broken enough that I'd consider going and searching for a pirate version purely to avoid having to deal with Adobe. And that saddens me, that a company with such a tight grip on a market can treat it's customers and users with such contempt.

Re: Buying Adobe Photoshop CS6

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post #71
post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which you can merge to the same account [edit: actually, no, you can just use in tandem]. But, really, how would that be different if the user ID was a random name? People could still have "numerous Apple IDs and content bought with all of them".

As far as I'm aware you can't merge Apple IDs and it has been said a few times that it isn't likely to happen, I might be wrong however. If it does exist, do you happen to know the URL as I've been looking to do this for a while.

>As far as I'm aware you can't merge Apple IDs and it has been said a few times that it isn't likely to happen, I might be wrong however.

Checking again, that feature does not exist. I was certain I has seen info about doing so, but the official Apple docs say "nope".

Re: Buying Adobe Photoshop CS6

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post #72

Oh, with Adobe there are different kinds of hell: "Adobe’s rep told me that she’s very sorry, but I simply cannot buy CS 5.5 via the website. I must have an American billing address, or else they can’t sell me the product. Can’t buy it on the site, big deal. But wait, the plot thickens." http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/adobe-actively-encouraging-inte... Or: Why are UK prices nearly double US prices? It's cheaper to fly…

This happens in all sort of markets. You charge based on the cost of living. I don't like it, but it happens. It is usually linked to a contractual obligation in the locality, which means they have to charge higher to support the costs of their local representatives.

Except in countries like Australia your support is frequently based in West Coast US and India / Philippines yet your still charged an uplift.

If Support location mattered, you would have hawaii being charged differently from the other 49 states for every bit of software. As it is I have at least 2 hours of cross over with US business hours. If I bought the US software and had to call in during US hours, THAT would be understandable. No local free call number... that is understandable. But NOT just not selling it.

In the modern environment, if your entire transaction is via the website and the support rep is in india, why does it matter if I am buying from the US or Australia through your US store?

Surely the only cost is currency exchange, which I have to cover anyway on my Credit Card.

Re: Buying Adobe Photoshop CS6

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post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But it's not without its idiotic blunders. Topping the list is Apple's insistence that your user ID be an E-mail address. That's not just a bad idea, but it has resulted in untold numbers of people with numerous Apple IDs and content bought with all of them.

Which you can merge to the same account [edit: actually, no, you can just use in tandem]. But, really, how would that be different if the user ID was a random name? People could still have "numerous Apple IDs and content bought with all of them".

You can't use them in tandem anymore if you want to enable automatic download. Then iOS locks you to one account for 90 days.

Re: Buying Adobe Photoshop CS6

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My neighbor is an attorney that handles their licensing contracts (came in as part of an acquisition). He is quite impressed with the licensing process/infrastructure, but I wonder if that's the problem: the processes are set up for major deals with huge licensees and, as a result, the individual gets screwed. I'll have to ask him about it.

That's been my view on things. Not that I know your neighbor, but... for a company that has that much marketshare, they concern themselves primarily with catering to getting large amounts of money from larger companies. They've optimized for the fewer use cases, and seem to not understand there's a larger audience who'd be willing to pay them money if the process was easier (even at current prices).

Re: Buying Adobe Photoshop CS6

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We sell software online using PayPal. Occasionally PayPal will hold up the sale for mysterious reasons for up to 5 days. Then we have to tell the user that sorry, we know we just need to send them an email with a license key but PayPal are holding it up. I guess payment systems are just slow, probably for security/fraud prevention reasons.

Re: Buying Adobe Photoshop CS6

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My neighbor is an attorney that handles their licensing contracts (came in as part of an acquisition). He is quite impressed with the licensing process/infrastructure, but I wonder if that's the problem: the processes are set up for major deals with huge licensees and, as a result, the individual gets screwed. I'll have to ask him about it.

Try to find out what the licensing is for Creative Cloud.

I spent a couple of hours on their help forum - which is manned (and womanned) by frustrated users and some adobe employees (probably contractors) who don't seem to understand the questions.

I finally succeeded in finding a pdf document containing all the terms and conditions in N (where N is large) languages. No index, toc, or hyperlinks. English language (actually attorney-eeze) was way down in the doc.

Ordering isn't the only thing Adobe has screwed up. Their CS6 documentation has no index nor table of contents. I've wasted hours simply trying to find answers to simple 'how do I . . .' questions.

This is a real startup opportunity - if you can negotiate the IP nightmare.

Re: Buying Adobe Photoshop CS6

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Many years ago the number one page layout program was Quark Xpress. The company decided to save money by firing all their employees who developed the program and were familiar with the code base and save money by outsourcing all development to a code team overseas who was not familiar with page layout software or the Mac platform Quark ran on. This outsourcing team would appear on development boards asking extremely…

"Adobe in the last 5 years has now let go many of the core developers of their critical products and outsourced their key products to development teams overseas who were not familiar with the product or the fields of graphic design and illustration." I don't know if that's true, but even if I take your word that it is, this really has nothing to do with the OP's problem, which is order fulfillment and not the actual…

I can assure you that every person he talked to during the order process was in an offshore call center somewhere. The order processing is probably outsourced to a third party too. I see no other explanation for something that should be:

    if (validatePayment()) {
      emailCustomer(generatedSerial);
    }
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