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Nintendo blitzes GitHub with over 8k emulator-related DMCA takedowns

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Re: Nintendo blitzes GitHub with over 8k emulator-related DMCA takedowns

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Post by oefrha »

ekianjo wrote: post #45
Jochim wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The torrents would be snapshots of the repo at a particular point in time. Updates couldn't be fetched through the torrent via git pull. I'd assume that op wants a torrent that can be pushed/pulled from.

git is decentralized by design. you dont need bittorrent.

No. With BitTorrent, I can tell a client to go fetch this torrent or hash (magnet link) and it can do that without any specific hardcoded server. Centralized trackers help but there’s always the DHT. With git you need to give the client an exact host, which can be gone for any number of reasons.

Re: Nintendo blitzes GitHub with over 8k emulator-related DMCA takedowns

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Post by omeid2 »

isodev wrote: post #59

> In keeping with its developer-friendly approach and branding, the Microsoft-owned platform... Yes, because Microsoft has the other side where they take everyone's code and then repurpose it as a "coding aid as a service" kind of thing (copilot) without attribution or even permission in the first place.

That cat got out of the bag when Google was allowed to gobble up all copyrighted content to operate a commercial service without paying the copyright holders.

If you can demonstrate genuine benefit to society --of course, beyond mere access to copyrighted material-- even if during the course of a commercial enterprise, copyright does not apply.

Re: Nintendo blitzes GitHub with over 8k emulator-related DMCA takedowns

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Post by squigz »

langsoul-com wrote: post #10
pipes wrote: post #7

I thought this was going to be all Nintendo emulators, thankfully it is only yuzu (switch emulator) related.

For now, Nintendo won the lawsuit against Yuzu, on grounds of piracy. Given how most emulators can allow playing pirated games, the others might be next.

We've been hearing that for decades, and we still out here emulating

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Post by carom »

dannyw wrote: post #8

I wonder if there’s a “git over BitTorrent”. Having a cryptographically signed (by authors, not by GitHub) and fully open source git hosting network would be a boom for FOSS security in general.

Git is a decentralized service.

Re: Nintendo blitzes GitHub with over 8k emulator-related DMCA takedowns

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Post by YetAnotherNick »

Dibby053 wrote: post #46
YetAnotherNick wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Git commit messages could be cryptographically signed. And git, the protocol is fully open source. Also there are many open source UI. Care to explain what is the usecase of git of torrent compared to gitlab?

Distributed hosting means there isn't a single point of failure. Even without DMCAs it's fairly common to try cloning a random gitlab or plain git repo only to find it's down.

I have multiple torrent downloads pending for more than an year. Just because it is distributed doesn't mean it is safe from being lost.

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Post by fuu_dev »

pprotas wrote: post #40
None4U wrote: post #33

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> But which law makes it illegal to circumvent such systems? DMCA section 1201

You are right, it says it right there: No person shall circumvent a technological measure that effectively controls access to a work protected under this title. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/1201 Can the emulators remove the circumvention code to avoid the DMCA takedown?

DMCA § 1201 makes reverse engineering modern consoles illegal.

Any modern game console has some form of decryption, which can be argued to prevent access.

This is when we run into the chicken/egg problem because you can't write emulation without violating 1201. It is also in part the argumentation Nintendo used in the yuzu case.

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Post by unixhero »

josephh wrote: post #37
vundercind wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Emulation’s legal whether or not some of the software on a platform is abandonware (which doesn’t justify anything legally, anyway)

When you make this kind of claim, please make sure to 1) disclose whether you're a lawyer, and 2) your jurisdiction.

No. This is not legally binding. This is not the United States Of America where we speak officially, this is a random web forum.

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Post by unixhero »

irjustin wrote: post #51
humzashahid98 wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If emulators in general were illegal, Nintendo would be in trouble too and would be obliged to remove the emulated games it sells on the Virtual Console.

You believe the sword is double edged, fair and cuts both ways. It does not.

Beautiful, that is poetry man!
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