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The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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That makes me feel better about the whole project. If they were wasting their time developing a new OS from scratch instead of working on the programs running on it, I'd think they're nuts. I bought an R1 during the first pre-order and it arrived a couple days ago. In it's current form, it's not the AI from the movie "Her" that's going to manage your life for you. It's neat. It's a cool little toy that does interesti…

Yeah, I would actually expect most hardware like this to be running on some open-source OS, either Android (AOSP), Linux or some variant. I mean, even the hardware that Meta and Amazon produce are built on top of Android / Linux variants, so I would be surprised if smaller players were writing their own custom OS these days.

Anything else would also be completely insane. Usually your two options are Android or yocto depending on how custom you want your system to be and whether you want to rather write an android app.

There is nothing worthy of criticism in the fact they choose android as a base.

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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If it ran Debian would we have the same complaint? I am surprised by the poor battery life if it’s running Android and using push to talk. They need to do something about that rabbit animation because that’s where this thing spends most of its time.

>If it ran Debian would we have the same complaint?

No, in that case they would deserve to be called incompetent.

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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You should not be surprised. If you look at most of the jobs in the careers page for example [0], they mention the need for "Experience with framework-level customization of AOSP" and that the app is in "Flutter". So this was immediately obvious that it was running Android. It is just that this was a nice and perfectly packaged scam, but not as expensive scam like the Humane AI Pin. and yes. Humane is also using Andr…

Absolutely nothing wrong with using Android as a base for this.

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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post #56

That makes me feel better about the whole project. If they were wasting their time developing a new OS from scratch instead of working on the programs running on it, I'd think they're nuts. I bought an R1 during the first pre-order and it arrived a couple days ago. In it's current form, it's not the AI from the movie "Her" that's going to manage your life for you. It's neat. It's a cool little toy that does interesti…

And the main question remains unanswered: why do they sell a whole device rather than an app?

The question was somewhat answered in TFA

> We didn’t bother testing out any other functionality, such as Spotify integration, Vision, etc., but we wouldn’t be surprised if some of them didn’t work. After all, the Rabbit R1’s launcher app is intended to be preinstalled in the firmware and be granted several privileged, system-level permissions — only some of which we were able to grant — so some of the functions would likely fail if we tried.

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

So it's not really something intended to be efficient and useful, it's a conversation piece.

Have you looked at other teenage engineering products? None of them are in any way the most practical way to accomplish something.

The OP-1 is genuinely useful. It might not be good value, but I’m not sure anything does the job it does nicer.

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you looked at other teenage engineering products? None of them are in any way the most practical way to accomplish something.

The OP-1 is genuinely useful. It might not be good value, but I’m not sure anything does the job it does nicer.

Sure, I have no doubt that someone can make good use out of it. But clearly it isn't meant to be the most practical option, in the sense that the same things can be accomplished without a 2k$ device.

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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I ordered one since it cost exactly as much as a 1 year stand-alone perplexity license that it comes with. I don’t know how they can possibly make money with this but i’m looking forward to having a new toy on my desk and I really like the teenage engineering vibes of it.

They aren't paying retail price for the subscription. The basic idea behind the business model is – you pay wholesale rates to the provider, charge all users a set fee, and hope that they collectively don't use the service too much.

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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Too much VC money into a gazillion startups without proper management. What can go wrong? This is the result of tech cultism and lack of proper production standards. Design Thinking is like some form of forbidden knowledge today. So much “disruption” with no clear product use case. AI is the new dotcom boom. 190 percent hype. 10 percent actual implementation. The startups have expectation to capitalize on testing wit…

I don't think it's improper management, I think management knows exactly what product they were putting out.

The problem is marketing and severely exaggerating what these devices are and can do thanks to all of the noise about "AI" recently.

This is a clear miscommunication (or intentional miscommunication) internally about what this thing actually is.

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The eye catching hardware is what made this project interesting. Would we be talking about this at all if it was just an app?

That's their reason to make it a stand-alone device. What is my reason to want it to be a stand-alone device?

Too many layers of stubborn ppl acting confused at this point. The hardware is the hardware because they wanted to make hardware. People bought they hardware because they wanted hardware.
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