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Re: Rabbit R1: Barely Reviewable [video]

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Post by Moomoomoo309 »

windexh8er wrote: post #66
jinushaun wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tell me you’ve never seen a MKBHD video without saying you’ve never seen a MKBHD video. He’s probably the best tech reviewer on YouTube. I definitely trust him more than other reviewers who do it for the clicks/lols.

He doesn't do it for the clicks? I can't tell if this is sarcasm, but I'm going to assume it's not - because if this is truly your perspective I'd implore you to install a few extensions that help weed out what YouTube knows you'll watch. Clearly the algorithms are working. To sum this one up: Tell me you can't tell the difference between an influencer and a reviewer without telling me you can't tell the difference b…

You really should watch some of his videos if you think this. Marques has been doing this for years at this point, he's a reviewer, not an influencer. The clickbait titles is purely a YouTube thing, that is only indicative of the video being on YT, unfortunately.

Re: Rabbit R1: Barely Reviewable [video]

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Post by ein0p »

cjk2 wrote: post #58
ein0p wrote: post #57

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There are multiple problems this could solve, actually. I can think up of at least one every day that a sufficiently advanced agentic AI could do for me, freeing me up from mundane bullshit. Imagine having a secretary onto whom you could offload bullshit tasks using freeform human language without any accommodations needed for the AI, and with near perfect contextual knowledge of what you’re currently dealing with. T…

I had a human one of them. I spent more time interacting with it and dealing with misunderstandings and corrections than I gained from not solving the problems myself. As pointed out elsewhere I was gaslit into changing the subject by an LLM the other day and then it got stuff wrong. End game is it created more work than not using it. And that’s what we need to be careful of. The promise versus benefits of technology…

You’re probably not using GPT4. If that’s the case, you aren’t really using an “LLM”. With GPT5 that gap will be even more obvious.

Re: Rabbit R1: Barely Reviewable [video]

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Post by TrevorFSmith »

ein0p wrote: post #34

When I see such things I immediately ask myself a question, why is this not an app? There’s no good answer to that question in this case. IDK why they even bothered with the hardware side. It’d seem to me that you could do it later if app gets sufficient traction

Apple and Google take 30% of app revenue and love to implement in the OS the best features of popular apps. It's a bad deal for most businesses.

Re: Rabbit R1: Barely Reviewable [video]

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Post by steveharman »

Today, after many years, I unsubscribed and unfollowed MKBHD.

I'm just bored and fed up with his smart-alec "hey this is a bad new thing" videos to catch eyeballs and feed the algo.

Seems as though unless you're a big-bucks big-tech that's going to give him a discount on a fancy electric car then you're nothing.

Re: Rabbit R1: Barely Reviewable [video]

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Post by satvikpendem »

jinushaun wrote: post #64
windexh8er wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's unfortunate that the only reason this problem exists is because people buy into the marketing. But the amazingly ironic part about this is that MKBHD / Marques Brownlee has hocked this type of garbage (aka sponsorships) for years, propping up a lot of this bad behavior along the way. Personalities like him are "celebrities" from a lot of consumer's perspectives, and they trust what he says verbatim. From an obje…

Tell me you’ve never seen a MKBHD video without saying you’ve never seen a MKBHD video. He’s probably the best tech reviewer on YouTube. I definitely trust him more than other reviewers who do it for the clicks/lols.

> He’s probably the best tech reviewer on YouTube

He doesn't hold a candle to people like Dave2D or Hardware Unboxed, the latter of which has extremely thorough testing for every single one of the products they review. MKBHD is often inaccurate about many things and certainly not exhaustive in his reviews like other reviewers are. His channel can be better classified as infotainment, much like Unbox Therapy and (for certain of their videos) Linus Tech Tips are.

Re: Rabbit R1: Barely Reviewable [video]

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Post by praisewhitey »

windexh8er wrote: post #41
saltsaman wrote: post #19

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It's his core philosophy: "Never. Ever. Buy a tech product based on the promise of future software updates." https://x.com/MKBHD/status/1383616274693951494

It's unfortunate that the only reason this problem exists is because people buy into the marketing. But the amazingly ironic part about this is that MKBHD / Marques Brownlee has hocked this type of garbage (aka sponsorships) for years, propping up a lot of this bad behavior along the way. Personalities like him are "celebrities" from a lot of consumer's perspectives, and they trust what he says verbatim. From an obje…

Which sponsorships are you referring to? I'm only aware of his deal with d-brand, and those products work as advertised.

Re: Rabbit R1: Barely Reviewable [video]

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Post by windexh8er »

Moomoomoo309 wrote: post #71
windexh8er wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He doesn't do it for the clicks? I can't tell if this is sarcasm, but I'm going to assume it's not - because if this is truly your perspective I'd implore you to install a few extensions that help weed out what YouTube knows you'll watch. Clearly the algorithms are working. To sum this one up: Tell me you can't tell the difference between an influencer and a reviewer without telling me you can't tell the difference b…

You really should watch some of his videos if you think this. Marques has been doing this for years at this point, he's a reviewer, not an influencer. The clickbait titles is purely a YouTube thing, that is only indicative of the video being on YT, unfortunately.

I don't believe we share the same barrier to entry for objectivity, is really what it comes down to. He's sponsored, he's an influencer.

From a recent article [0]: "The 30-year-old YouTube kingpin makes money from sponsorship deals with brands, merchandise sales, and a whole lot of ad revenue from YouTube."

Where do you draw the line between his format and his sponsorships? And how do you know that he's "reviewing" without monetary bias? As an example he put out this [1] video with Buick a few years ago. Let's try to be honest for a second - he wouldn't be caught dead driving that car unless Buick paid him to. And that is my point. There's no boundary between his "reviews" and his "ads". They look, they feel and they are the same format. He's excited about this Buick, "reviewing" it on his channel, it does say that it's sponsored, but is it his actual opinion? Very doubtful. And that, right there, is the difference between a reviewer and an influencer. Is he a charlatan? Maybe not quite that far - but he is being dishonest by making the sponsor video in, basically, the same format as anything else he does. Does he have relevant points? Sure - but there are other reviewers that have much deeper knowledge of the reviewed product. Case in point is his car reviews - he's not a true car enthusiast. His car "review" videos clearly reflect that when you compare it to someone who knows the car market in-depth (there are a lot of great car reviewers on YouTube, MKBHD isn't one of them). Is it good enough? For most people, probably. But again - I don't trust anyone to do a full spot on a car that's not even close to being on his want-to-have list and then expect him to be unbiased when "reviewing" a competitor. He puts out ads for his own brand, and anyone willing to pay him. He's an influencer. And now, he's hocking wallets that are $125+ [2][3].

[0] https://fortune.com/2024/02/22/marques-brownlee-youtube-at-a... [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfC8Y66tR6o [2] https://ridge.com/collections/mkbhd [3] https://ridge.com/pages/mkbhd-announcement

Re: Rabbit R1: Barely Reviewable [video]

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Post by godelski »

phmqk76 wrote: post #22

I love how people compare products like this or Apple Vision Pro to the original iPhone to make the point that products with limited appeal can flourish into something incredibly useful. The comparison is bad. The iPhone promised to be three things: a phone, an iPod, and a web browser. And it performed these tasks well! It didn’t oversell what it was, and it was a revelation. I owned the first gen shortly after it ca…

This is why I don't understand LLM sales pitches. Why isn't it

  We built a system that (lossy) compresses all text on the internet and is able to be (fuzzy) searched with a human language interface. Storage size: under a few hundred gigs (depending on precision).
I have to say, it is a pretty impressive feat. Why upsell to AGI when that's only going to leave a bad taste in peoples' mouths when they find out it doesn't have basic reasoning abilities? I mean really, does everyone not realize they are drawing the same exact ascii unicorn?

Re: Rabbit R1: Barely Reviewable [video]

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Post by windexh8er »

imtringued wrote: post #62
windexh8er wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's unfortunate that the only reason this problem exists is because people buy into the marketing. But the amazingly ironic part about this is that MKBHD / Marques Brownlee has hocked this type of garbage (aka sponsorships) for years, propping up a lot of this bad behavior along the way. Personalities like him are "celebrities" from a lot of consumer's perspectives, and they trust what he says verbatim. From an obje…

If you actually watched his videos you would have seen the one where he actively calls out that a lot of his viewers aren't interested in the product at all and just want to see another high production value video from him just to kill time, with no intention of ever buying anything. "The entertainment you would watch" would probably amount to nothing and you probably wouldn't even finish the video, because it would…

I'm not sure why I would want to watch his videos if he's basically telling people that he's an entertainer - and that he caters to that. I see why he would do that, but that seems to bolster my assertion that his focus is on production, not review.

Re: Rabbit R1: Barely Reviewable [video]

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Post by Gazoche »

phmqk76 wrote: post #22

I love how people compare products like this or Apple Vision Pro to the original iPhone to make the point that products with limited appeal can flourish into something incredibly useful. The comparison is bad. The iPhone promised to be three things: a phone, an iPod, and a web browser. And it performed these tasks well! It didn’t oversell what it was, and it was a revelation. I owned the first gen shortly after it ca…

Also, by the time the iPhone came out, mobile phones had already been ubiquitous for a while. People were already used to carry a slab of electronics in their pocket, so it was easy to rationalize the purchase of an iPhone as a replacement. At the very least, it was still a phone, with a sleek design and a futuristic touchscreen.

Plus Apple had already been very successful with the iPod line, so they weren't new in portable electronics and people were willing to trust them.

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