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Re: Jimmy Carter UFO Incident

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Post by perrygeo »

vertnerd wrote: post #16

"... Carter himself later said that, while he had considered the object to be a UFO—on the grounds it was unexplained—his knowledge of physics had meant he had not believed himself to be witnessing an alien spacecraft." Can you imagine that someone this clear-headed was ever the President of the United States?

Unfortunately some of Carter's contemporaneous head's of state were not so clear headed. In 1977 Eric Gairy, Prime Minister of Grenada, spent 45 minutes discussing his theories about UFOs to the United Nations. He claimed to have seen many and was convinced they were driven by “highly intelligent aliens of extraterrestrial origin." He even met with Carter about it. Two years later Gairy's government was overthrown by revolutionaries and he had to flee his home country - his strange obsession with UFOs is just an historical footnote.

Re: Jimmy Carter UFO Incident

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Post by andsoitis »

ak_111 wrote: post #36
vertnerd wrote: post #16

"... Carter himself later said that, while he had considered the object to be a UFO—on the grounds it was unexplained—his knowledge of physics had meant he had not believed himself to be witnessing an alien spacecraft." Can you imagine that someone this clear-headed was ever the President of the United States?

To blow your mind even further he also wrote an entire book accusing Israel of Apartheid, which is an even more stunningly clear-headed claim for a US president to make.

> accusing Israel of Apartheid, which is an even more stunningly clear-headed claim for a US president to make.

Carter explained that he is not using the word to describe racism, but the desire to acquire, occupy, confiscate and then to colonize Palestinian land.

Source: https://www.brandeis.edu/now/2008/january/cartervisit.html

The problem is that that is not apartheid. Apartheid “separateness” is explicitly a racist ideology and about forcing people to live in separate lands, not about colonizing.

Re: Jimmy Carter UFO Incident

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Post by blueflow »

ipaddr wrote: post #66
chipdart wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I want the aliens to be real so much. But even if it doesn't turn out to be aliens, these sorts of events present an opportunity to study and explore as-of-yet unexplored or poorly understood phenomenon, which can be equally exciting. One of the main reasons why the UFO crowd discredits itself is the way that the crazies in the community are overrepresented, and look at "this flying object is not identified" and au…

That's part of the campaign to discredit what others see and to encourage anyone who sees something to keep quiet.

But who would do that? And why?

Re: Jimmy Carter UFO Incident

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Post by barbariangrunge »

TheAceOfHearts wrote: post #2

I want the aliens to be real so much. But even if it doesn't turn out to be aliens, these sorts of events present an opportunity to study and explore as-of-yet unexplored or poorly understood phenomenon, which can be equally exciting. In particular, this example seems to be explained as follows: > In 2020, Justus completed an extensive study of the high-altitude barium release clouds, concluding that what Carter saw…

If there are super advanced aliens out there who can get to us, we are screwed. I for one want any aliens out there to be so far away they we can only maybe talk

Re: Jimmy Carter UFO Incident

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Post by keepamovin »

mtreis86 wrote: post #52
keepamovin wrote: post #12

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The barium clouds in that video are a cool effect. Can that model explain the movement towards, then away from the group of witnesses? I guess wind, but is it so common for wind to blow clouds 1 way and then stop and then blow the other? Not a metrologist, don't know! Haha :) A good overview of "state of UAP" right now is: https://www.uap.guide/quotes/introduction In addition, for fun, here's some other political fig…

It is very common for the atmosphere to have wind blowing in multiple directions between the different layers, called shear. Usually the jet stream will be around 90 degrees offset from the layers above or below it. If you open up https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/?model=gfs and click or select any region to get into the model sounding viewer, there will be wind direction barbs off to the right of the m…

Yes, I like that shear idea. But what I'm wondering is could a cloud from one layer move up then move in the other direction?? Thanks for the link! :)

Re: Jimmy Carter UFO Incident

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Post by klyrs »

TheAceOfHearts wrote: post #2

I want the aliens to be real so much. But even if it doesn't turn out to be aliens, these sorts of events present an opportunity to study and explore as-of-yet unexplored or poorly understood phenomenon, which can be equally exciting. In particular, this example seems to be explained as follows: > In 2020, Justus completed an extensive study of the high-altitude barium release clouds, concluding that what Carter saw…

For those of us who prefer text to youtube: a nice page that goes in-depth with nice pictures of barium tracers

https://eos.org/science-updates/ionospheric-fireworks-illumi...

Re: Jimmy Carter UFO Incident

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Post by keepamovin »

MichaelZuo wrote: post #31
keepamovin wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are lots of such videos. But the strength of that data is not that strong. Haha! :) If you have something like, right-angle change of direction, or high-res details it gets better.

Can you link some of these videos?

Some of the crap ones or some of the good ones?? :) Seriously asking :)

Re: Jimmy Carter UFO Incident

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Post by dahart »

WillAdams wrote: post #42
vertnerd wrote: post #16

"... Carter himself later said that, while he had considered the object to be a UFO—on the grounds it was unexplained—his knowledge of physics had meant he had not believed himself to be witnessing an alien spacecraft." Can you imagine that someone this clear-headed was ever the President of the United States?

The thing which kills me is that I am still mystified (and outraged) by how in my lifetime we went from: - I am selling my family farm because I don't want there to be a perception of influence. to: - I am keeping all of my companies and property and will be charging the Secret Service which has the duty to protect me room and board. That said, the whole UFO thing is pretty ridiculous --- it's _hard_ to bring an obje…

> the whole UFO thing is pretty ridiculous

Wait, which UFO thing are you referring to? Carter never thought it was anything extraterrestrial, he stated that he assumed it was a natural or man-made event. Are you saying it’s strange that some people believe in aliens?

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