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Re: Today Microsoft Banned My Country Iran from Minecraft

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Post by nashashmi »

Johnssmithss wrote: post #60
swarnie wrote: post #56

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Why? Is one system provably better than all others and therefore must dominate? I personally find the idea of an Oligarchical Republic to be a bit batty nuggets... Do i get to trade? Am i up against the wall in your world?

If you are against democracy then yes you may be up against the wall. Tough luck.

This was the reason why Cuba was kept out of the “organizations of Americas”. When they finally let this stupid reasoning go, it was too late. And Cuba was no longer interested in being part of the org.

Democracy is a doorstop for foreign enterprises and influence. The locals suffer.

Re: Today Microsoft Banned My Country Iran from Minecraft

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Post by aaron695 »

gspencley wrote: post #15

> A children's block game is not going to help us build nukes or anything, so the sanctions excuse doesn't make sense especially since I already own it. While I agree with that sentiment, and while I admit that I don't know exactly what the sanctions entail, it is quite possible that this is a legal compliance issue and not strictly Microsoft's doing. And of course it could also be a "better safe than sorry" policy w…

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Re: Today Microsoft Banned My Country Iran from Minecraft

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Post by SpaghettiCthulu »

cesarb wrote: post #57
kjkjadksj wrote: post #22

Blame the new launcher from micro$oft. You used to be able to play offline with no account. Now you can’t even play offline apparently.

AFAIK, you still can play offline with alternative launchers like Prism Launcher (you need an account to do the initial setup and download, but once everything is downloaded, you can add as many offline accounts as you want), and the downloadable server still has a "do not validate the accounts online" option which allows offline users to connect and play.

Not the most approachable option, but you can also setup a mod dev workspace and launch that way. Or download and launch the game directly with a `java -jar ...` comand.

Re: Today Microsoft Banned My Country Iran from Minecraft

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Post by ok123456 »

Johnssmithss wrote: post #34
geff82 wrote: post #30

From my experience with and in Iran: every western sanction leads to more products and services from China. Life becomes a bit more difficult, yes. But the government does what it wants to do. And China essentially takes over the economy. At the expense of the West. Is the Western behavior wise? I do not know. Sometimes, I hear a "boom" in the air, coming from far away. Those are the bottles of champagne that Chinese…

Selling stuff to dictatorships is bad, even if you make money from it.

So, we're going to stop selling weapons to Israel?

Re: Today Microsoft Banned My Country Iran from Minecraft

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Post by thomastjeffery »

londons_explore wrote: post #13

You'll be pleased to know that if you use a pirated copy, they won't come after you either...

Even for a moderately tech-savvy person, finding a usable crack of the most popular game ever is a treacherous task. Sailing the high seas as a layman is as risky today as it has ever been, especially after so many old hats (kickass, rarbg, etc.) have been decapitated by law enforcement.

The most effective anti-piracy tool today is to prevent communities from actually earning trust and moderating content trackers.

Re: Today Microsoft Banned My Country Iran from Minecraft

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Post by justin66 »

UncleEntity wrote: post #11
phone8675309 wrote: post #4

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Why the flying fuck should sanctions infringe on someone's ability to play a game they already purchased?

Half the point of sanctions is making the life of average people difficult so the leaders fear them revolting over not being able to play a game or, you know, feeding their children. The other half is to reduce their ability to wage war on their neighbors. Either way, the leaders are still sipping wine and eating cheese.

I bet the ayatollahs are not sipping wine. I think I'm happier not knowing what they do for fun.

Re: Today Microsoft Banned My Country Iran from Minecraft

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Post by phone8675309 »

tichiian wrote: post #50
waffleiron wrote: post #40

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Honest question; has that ever worked? Cause I could see it just as easily weaponised by a sanctioned state to cause one to dislike "the west" more. Would you be more likely to overthrow your government when other governments start making your life more difficult?

Sanctions may be a very weak measure when it comes to inciting revolutions. But in general, yes, sanctions against non-military goods do work to change the minds of greedy leaderships if they can be tailored to remove a sufficient part of their income. However, that is not always the case, e.g. in Iran it is rather a measure of the "we are doing as much as we can, more than sternly worded letters, less than violence…

> But in general, yes, sanctions against non-military goods do work to change the minds of greedy leaderships if they can be tailored to remove a sufficient part of their income.

Why are they not working to bring about regime changes in Russia and Iran, and why did they not work to bring about regime change in Cuba and Iraq?

Re: Today Microsoft Banned My Country Iran from Minecraft

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Post by ImHereToVote »

Symbiote wrote: post #62
ImHereToVote wrote: post #58

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I applaud sanctions because this time Iran simply went too far. It is completely unprecedented that Iran bombed the consulate if Israel. This is an incredibly reckless escalation of violence.

It was Israel that bombed the Iranian consulate: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_bombing_of_the_Iranian...

Oh. Forget all I said then. All is well.

Re: Today Microsoft Banned My Country Iran from Minecraft

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Post by Spivak »

cutemonster wrote: post #70
Alupis wrote: post #54

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> It's also about making sure the common person in $SANCTIONED_COUNTRY feels the pain. This is exactly it - otherwise the populace can just ignore their government's foreign policy decisions. There's consequences for being a bad actor on the global stage... and today that means no more Minecraft, of all things. Perhaps the OP can write a letter to their representative and pressure them to work on easing sanctions...

The people (in Iran) have been trying, but the dictators killed hundreds of people and put an end to that, for now at least. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahsa_Amini_protests > otherwise the populace can just ignore their government's foreign policy decisions It's a murderous regime. It's not a government that you can write letters to and vote away.

Which is why I'm surprised the response is "sanctions" and not topple the government and install western democracy. It's what the countries imposing the sanctions want to happen anyway.

There's so much historical precedent for this working. If a consortium of Western militaries show up and say "join us fighting against your government or when we win you'll be killed/exiled as a traitor" the population will flip immediately.

It's not as if we don't do this already, we just quietly orchestrate violent revolutions and install people loyal to the west. This method would at least be more honest about it.

Re: Today Microsoft Banned My Country Iran from Minecraft

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Post by crowcroft »

ok123456 wrote: post #74
Johnssmithss wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Selling stuff to dictatorships is bad, even if you make money from it.

So, we're going to stop selling weapons to Israel?

Could you expand on this, my understanding was that Israel held relatively free and fair elections.
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