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Re: Pixiv Blocks Adult Content, but Only for US and UK Users

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Post by vonwoodson »

kelipso wrote: post #16
vonwoodson wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, the TikTok ban isn't about restricting content for US users, it's about restricting the data vacuum that is the PRC. TikTok has already been banned for Govmnt employees for years. And, for good reason. Sometimes, we have to remind ourselves that our government is not the bad guy. The bad guys are the bad guys; and those bad guys aren't often bad to their own kind.

It's pretty obvious the tiktok ban was due to the Israel-Palestine conflict and thus is about restricting US users. It literally got passed in the same bill as Israel funding too.

No. The Tiktok ban is because the PRC is using it to track US (and other country's') citizens. This is fundamentally no different than what Facebook has been doing for years, but China doesn't have a free market, so every piece of data is available to the PRC intelligence.

This should not be a surprise, but you folks are idiots who think only The Big Bad United States are (somehow) the only ones interested in spying.

Re: Pixiv Blocks Adult Content, but Only for US and UK Users

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Post by kelipso »

schoen wrote: post #64
kelipso wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's pretty obvious the tiktok ban was due to the Israel-Palestine conflict and thus is about restricting US users. It literally got passed in the same bill as Israel funding too.

I actually hadn't heard this theory until I read it on Wikipedia about an hour before your reply. I don't think the "same bill as Israel funding" is enough to make this obvious without other context, though: after all, that same bill includes military funding for Taiwan and Ukraine, too, and combining them was largely a parliamentary tactic to make it harder for legislators to oppose portions of the combined bill, no…

Same bill as Israel funding is not my argument, it's just something to note. If you dig into this, you will find lots of public statements or comments made by ADL and related organizations about tiktok's influence on gen z opinions of the conflict, since tiktok doesn't ban pro palestine content or videos of civilian killings by IDF like all of the other big social networks do. Couple of weeks later, the ban is introduced and few weeks later the bill is passed. This is as pretty obvious as it can possibly be.

Re: Pixiv Blocks Adult Content, but Only for US and UK Users

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Post by kelipso »

kaycey2022 wrote: post #54
kelipso wrote: post #17

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There's been wider awareness of how pornography is harmful to boys especially, and also to men. The drive to restrict pornography from children and relegation of pornography to seedier parts of the internet makes complete sense as a response to this.

It’s unfortunate you are being downvoted. Porn is very harmful indeed. I can’t think of any benefit in it being normalised. Maybe the defence of porn is motivated by the fact that other violent forms of expression have already been normalised. But I don’t see how that takes away from the dangers, access to porn presents for significant numbers of young men. People who express themselves through the creation of panora…

I think the defense of porn is motivated by the fact that they are porn addicts lol.

Re: Pixiv Blocks Adult Content, but Only for US and UK Users

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Post by SV_BubbleTime »

SuperNinKenDo wrote: post #45
anigbrowl wrote: post #41

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…because… this is how we’ll get a free internet again. X to doubt. You can do this now but it's limited to people with technical skills, and once you have figured out torrent trackers or TOR or whatever it is you're interested in, there isn't that much incentive to radically improve the tooling to make it more consumer friendly. If nothing else having it require some work insulates you from Eternal September. The les…

You're definitely pointing out a real problem, but I will say, back in the day when Netflix didn't exist, even some of my most technically and intellectually challenged friends would figure out stuff that now seems to confuse people who present as above-average in tech literacy. The will to do somrthing, and a social network that shares information count for a lot more than people seem to think.

This is double true for the effort people would put into getting porn.

Re: Pixiv Blocks Adult Content, but Only for US and UK Users

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Post by autoexec »

SuperNinKenDo wrote: post #45
anigbrowl wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

…because… this is how we’ll get a free internet again. X to doubt. You can do this now but it's limited to people with technical skills, and once you have figured out torrent trackers or TOR or whatever it is you're interested in, there isn't that much incentive to radically improve the tooling to make it more consumer friendly. If nothing else having it require some work insulates you from Eternal September. The les…

You're definitely pointing out a real problem, but I will say, back in the day when Netflix didn't exist, even some of my most technically and intellectually challenged friends would figure out stuff that now seems to confuse people who present as above-average in tech literacy. The will to do somrthing, and a social network that shares information count for a lot more than people seem to think.

I agree, in the old days the barrier to access to porn and getting games installed and working inspired a lot of people to get into tech. Maybe when people have to work a little harder to get access to the media they want it will lead to a new generation of tech savvy folks and another wave of innovation.

Re: Pixiv Blocks Adult Content, but Only for US and UK Users

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Post by cpthammer »

kaycey2022 wrote: post #54
kelipso wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's been wider awareness of how pornography is harmful to boys especially, and also to men. The drive to restrict pornography from children and relegation of pornography to seedier parts of the internet makes complete sense as a response to this.

It’s unfortunate you are being downvoted. Porn is very harmful indeed. I can’t think of any benefit in it being normalised. Maybe the defence of porn is motivated by the fact that other violent forms of expression have already been normalised. But I don’t see how that takes away from the dangers, access to porn presents for significant numbers of young men. People who express themselves through the creation of panora…

Studies purporting the harms of porn do not replicate, do not hold up to meta analysis, are not validated by ANY real world outcomes (sexual violence, teen pregnancies, etc. are all down, not up, in countries with access to porn) and are propped up by the religions puritans and radical feminists responsible for this renewed worldwide chilling of sexual expression.

Media effects broadly do not exist. The printing press did not cause any of its purported harms, nor did rock and roll, nor MTV. And whatever the next big thing is (VR?) will suffer the same baseless accusations supported by nothing but ideologically-driven cargo cult science.

Re: Pixiv Blocks Adult Content, but Only for US and UK Users

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Post by cpthammer »

qiqitori wrote: post #60

Heh, most commenters here are way off-base IMO, and IMO the real reason is hinted at in the article. Notably, there are categories of adult content that are illegal in the US and UK, but not in Japan. Based on something that very recently happened to someone I know in the UK, I think it is likely that Pixiv was compelled to hand over information on users who were looking at illegal-in-UK stuff. Perhaps Pixiv has gott…

The article is incorrect about categories of adult content being illegal in the US. The cited Miller Test has been used to justify bans of real life photography, but the supreme court has allowed first amendment protections for works of art that objectively do not cause harm by their production, which necessarily includes drawings like those on pixiv.

Re: Pixiv Blocks Adult Content, but Only for US and UK Users

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Post by kaycey2022 »

kelipso wrote: post #73
kaycey2022 wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s unfortunate you are being downvoted. Porn is very harmful indeed. I can’t think of any benefit in it being normalised. Maybe the defence of porn is motivated by the fact that other violent forms of expression have already been normalised. But I don’t see how that takes away from the dangers, access to porn presents for significant numbers of young men. People who express themselves through the creation of panora…

I think the defense of porn is motivated by the fact that they are porn addicts lol.

I didn't want to go there lol
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