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El Prado Museum – Virtual Tour

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Post by mpeg »

raverbashing wrote: post #67
mpeg wrote: post #58

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What a weird take to defend tech salaries in Spain, I'd love to move but the very top salaries for my level cap around 80-90k EUR so it'd be quite a big drop even compared to the UK

As the other comment said, it is not a defense But be aware that the London salaries upper tail is wider, possibly brought up by the quant firms (which are a different kind of company than most are accustomed) levels.fyi gives 112kE as the median and 200kE/90% for London vs around 60kE for the median and 90kE/90% (pretax for both)

Levels.fyi is always very inflated for anything outside of FAANG – to the point where it's not realistic

Glassdoor lists the average for SWEs for Madrid at 35k€ vs London at £66k (76k€) which even accounting for cost of living is quite a big difference

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Post by narag »

noduerme wrote: post #43
cbdumas wrote: post #16

For anyone planning a visit to Spain, I can't recommend Madrid highly enough. I wasn't sure what to expect from the city, but it might be my favorite I've ever been to. Madrid is beautiful, clean, walkable, and very welcoming. The food was all amazing and it seemed like we never had to wait for a table. I had a great time in Barcelona, but I'd recommend Madrid over Barcelona in a heartbeat.

Madrid: They don't have a river, a beach or ancient ruins. What they have is a living city and people who love it.

Madrid: They don't have a river, a beach or ancient ruins.

We do have a river, but if it doesn't seem much to you, take the train south and in half an hour you reach Aranjuez:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aranjuez

There you have the Tagus river and gorgeous gardens.

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Post by narag »

raverbashing wrote: post #53
electrozav wrote: post #49

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Tech workers here are paid so much less than they should be; there's tons of unemployment only to earn 15k/yr when theyre at work. Salaries like this are a joke and should rise

No, your avg tech worker is not going to be making 15k/yr. Maybe around 40k/yr and that would be an "average" salary for a non-senior position.

No, your avg tech worker is not going to be making 15k/yr. Maybe around 40k/yr and that would be an "average" salary for a non-senior position.

Both of you are wrong for different reasons. The truth is more nuanced.

First, Madrid is very different from the rest of the country. Salaries are higher, still half of what our neighbors of the north have. 15k/20k sounds like a rest-of-the-country average.

Even in Madrid 40k€ is far from average, that it's more likely 28k.

40 is the salary for a very senior o very specialized programmer/analyst.

But there's a caveat that makes you closer to reality for Madrid and it's if you add forced pension and health insurance that the employer pays. It's around 40% on top of the raw salary, so someone earning 30k is really costing 42k to the employer.

After income tax, those 30k become 24k :(

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Post by jillesvangurp »

agile-gift0262 wrote: post #62
jillesvangurp wrote: post #52

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Madrid is indeed very nice. Perfect destination in early spring or late autumn as winters are very short there. Avoid in the summer as it gets stupidly hot there. One reason I like it is that it's far away from the beaches and package tourists. It's a huge modern city. And there's plenty to see. I love the public parks there. There's a huge new park on top of the inner ring road which they partially covered up. Perfe…

> If you have time and a car, driving around Spain is very enjoyable. I've seen most of it's larger and smaller cities over the years +1. But the train, specially being in Madrid, is a very good alternative to the car to travel around Spain.

Sure, between the bigger cities, the train is amazing. I did Valencia to Madrid by high speed rail in 2022 for example. Works great. The average speed is close to the maximum speed of the train; it only slows down to stop.

But for the more rural regions and smaller cities, you pretty much need a car.

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Post by elondaits »

aba_cz wrote: post #59

I know that not everybody has time, money, opportunity, etc. to go to Del Prado to see art with their own eyes but I have to say that seeing photos on my monitor before and seeing it in reality were completely different and not not transferable experiences. The light, those details and often even size of the canvas which is measured in meters and not centimeters are all incredible. For example Las Meninas is basicall…

It’s not said enough: Screens = tiny mass produced lights Paintings = A masterful mix of usually expensive substances carefully selected for the unique way in which they reflect light.

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Post by wageslave99 »

dathos wrote: post #63
wageslave99 wrote: post #48

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> The point of siesta Nobody takes siestas in Spain but the elderly, children and people without A/C in hot zones in summer, and I suppose in some rural towns as well.

That’s 80% of the country you’re describing there. I don’t know anyone who doesn’t do a siesta in summer, and elderly people continue throughout the year

You don't know anybody that don't do siesta when on holidays, not during normal working periods.

In the cities, people do not stop working midday to nap. Now if you are talking about rural towns, that is another thing.

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Post by noduerme »

kuu wrote: post #68
noduerme wrote: post #57

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Sure. It's kind of a creek like the Los Angeles river. The point is that the city of Madrid is not built around rivers (like NYC or London or Prague).

I get your point, but that's not exactly the case. Madrid is built there not by coincidence, there are a lot of underground rivers that cross the region, but then the city was built on top of them. See here: https://www-canaldeisabelsegunda-es.translate.goog/-/madrid-... Original: https://www.canaldeisabelsegunda.es/-/madrid-la-ciudad-edifi... And about ruins, they are, but they are also hidden: https://es.wikipedia.…

Amazing! At Cava Baja 10 there's a remnant of the wall... and I never knew, I stay at the hotel across the street whenever I'm in Madrid and face that building.

Ironically, my comment about ruins, rivers, etc, I lifted from a sign in the lobby of that very hotel. And here they are sitting on top of it ;)

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