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Re: Google workers arrested after protesting company's work with Israel

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They said nimbus was for civilian use only, then time publishes an article saying they are dealing with the IDF directly and have a discount given that Nimbus exists… https://time.com/6966102/google-contract-israel-defense-mini...

The same contract the exists between CIA and aws for it's top secret regions. I always ponder why people protest against something that happens thousands of miles from their homes, while the same activity occurs in their own country.

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Re: Google workers arrested after protesting company's work with Israel

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Never understood people who work for an employer with whom they don't agree.

Maybe because they think they could change it while inside? Like so many republican politicians hate big government but work for (Ie get elected to) said government, then try to change it to what they think is better.

Or maybe they want to quit and figured going out in a ball of fire would be more effective than resigning?

Re: Google workers arrested after protesting company's work with Israel

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post #4

"Bring your whole self to work."

Your whole self isn't all of your behaviors. It doesn't mean proselytize your religion at work. It doesn't mean engage in sexual activity at work. It doesn't mean spend 1/3 of your time at work asleep. A person can be authentic without being inappropriate.

> A person can be authentic without being inappropriate.

In principle, yes. But when your work collides with your values, that stops being the case.

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post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I prefer if the protests are relegated to a TV channel I can simply avoid ever tuning into (like CNN or MSNBC). I am not sure what state you have in mind, but US does not punish deviance from anything.

As can be seen here, they did punish these protesters. And the House has just passed a resolution saying that the slogan "from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free" is antisemitic. Many states, such as Texas, require written commitments from all state employees that they will not engage in the BDS movement or other forms of protest against Israel. How are these not a punishment for deviance from the desired p…

You can see other free-speech-related court cases fought by Palestine Legal.

I personally don’t think the “from the river…” slogan should be outlawed, being speech, but it does indeed eliminate the country of Israel by referring to its land as “Palestine”.

Re: Google workers arrested after protesting company's work with Israel

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post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I prefer if the protests are relegated to a TV channel I can simply avoid ever tuning into (like CNN or MSNBC). I am not sure what state you have in mind, but US does not punish deviance from anything.

As can be seen here, they did punish these protesters. And the House has just passed a resolution saying that the slogan "from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free" is antisemitic. Many states, such as Texas, require written commitments from all state employees that they will not engage in the BDS movement or other forms of protest against Israel. How are these not a punishment for deviance from the desired p…

It's a new Christian fundamentalism-backed ideological McCarthyism to erase the entire left with a new loyalist pledge... sort of like what totalitarian and communism regimes have required. "Separation of church and state be damned, you must believe X or you are un-American and forbidden to hold a job" is their modus operandi.

Re: Google workers arrested after protesting company's work with Israel

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post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I prefer if the protests are relegated to a TV channel I can simply avoid ever tuning into (like CNN or MSNBC). I am not sure what state you have in mind, but US does not punish deviance from anything.

As can be seen here, they did punish these protesters. And the House has just passed a resolution saying that the slogan "from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free" is antisemitic. Many states, such as Texas, require written commitments from all state employees that they will not engage in the BDS movement or other forms of protest against Israel. How are these not a punishment for deviance from the desired p…

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Re: Google workers arrested after protesting company's work with Israel

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post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In what form of government is a vocal minority of activist workers allowed to take over their employer's place of business? Please don't say "communism" as they would be sent to the gulag or worse in every communist regime that has ever existed.

When that happened in Poland in 1980, the activist workers won.[1] That's one of the places where the downfall of the USSR began. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solidarity_%28Polish_trade_uni...

Oh please. USSR broke to pieces because of internal problems not because some Polish workers locked themselves up in a shipyard.

Re: Google workers arrested after protesting company's work with Israel

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post #14

They said nimbus was for civilian use only, then time publishes an article saying they are dealing with the IDF directly and have a discount given that Nimbus exists… https://time.com/6966102/google-contract-israel-defense-mini...

That isn't at all what the article says. Every liberal democracy subscribes to the idea of civilian control of the military, so the distinction between civilian leadership and the military they oversee isn't a new or foreign concept. Why would you assume MoD use = IDF use? Do you also assume everything the DoD contracts for is used by the U.S. Army?

> Do you also assume everything the DoD contracts for is used by the U.S. Army?

tbh, I would expect most people assume that.

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