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Half of Ireland's young people have low level of mental wellbeing

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Re: Half of Ireland's young people have low level of mental wellbeing

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turndown wrote: post #40
negamax wrote: post #24

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What are you talking about? Ireland's population is mere 5M. That's €60K debt for each soul. And over €200K debt for a family. What does Ireland has to show for all this debt?

Others have pointed out that this amount is comfortable enough relative to GDP, but I also want to point of your method of arguing is dishonest. There will never be a day where the entire debt of a country is divided up among the citizens and then they each would have to pay that amount, so saying it’s 60k debt per each soul is kind of like a football fan saying that each Kansas City Chiefs fan each won .00001% of a…

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Re: Half of Ireland's young people have low level of mental wellbeing

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romafirst3 wrote: post #60
anotherhue wrote: post #38

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https://archive.ph/raUZk (originally https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/15/world/europe/ireland-hous... ) Allow me to further point out that 'just live with your parents' requires that your parents be close to your job. However the lion's share of jobs (worth having) are in Dublin. Therefore if you're not from Dublin you don't get the free parents rent, you pay the same $3k that you would rather pay as a mortgage or sav…

Article is paywalled but seems to just be a hyperbolic headline in the style of US papers talking about foreign countries. The social contract has not been completely ruptured. I checked last week.

There is no longer a path to having a family. Whatever you want to call that then.

Re: Half of Ireland's young people have low level of mental wellbeing

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Post by all2 »

dkersten wrote: post #69
all2 wrote: post #56

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Someone has to pay for the housing. It isn't free, the expense just gets shifted to someone else.

Ok, and? I don’t like my high tax bill just as much as the next person, but of all the things the money gets spent on, social housing isn’t something I’m particularly upset about.

I was just being pedantic and slightly Puritan. I apologize if I misunderstood your position.

Re: Half of Ireland's young people have low level of mental wellbeing

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Post by romafirst3 »

anotherhue wrote: post #72
romafirst3 wrote: post #60

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Article is paywalled but seems to just be a hyperbolic headline in the style of US papers talking about foreign countries. The social contract has not been completely ruptured. I checked last week.

There is no longer a path to having a family. Whatever you want to call that then.

Are they walling up vaginas? Because that’s the path to having a family.

Re: Half of Ireland's young people have low level of mental wellbeing

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Post by romafirst3 »

throwaway55671 wrote: post #48
romafirst3 wrote: post #29

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What are you talking about ? The only failings I see with the Irish model is they don’t go far enough in some areas. I’d like to see the healthcare system expanded for example. Per captia they are extremely wealthy. Have free education including third level. No student debt. Are extremely educated. Very low crime (including a tiny murder rate). Very low homelessness (although pressure has increased on the system in t…

> They frequently rank highest on happiness measures If half of young people have low levels of mental wellbeing, perhaps the composite average indicator is not so useful.

Or perhaps it is just as useful because it tells you where you need to and can improve.

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negamax wrote: post #8

Ireland should be an international study about how a state destroyed itself by running a gigantic welfare state despite all of world's money pouring into it Almost €300B national debt. Government is giving free houses, money to people who don't work. It's the only relatively wealthy European country with unlimited dole. And people make a lifestyle out of living on welfare forever. This is despite huge corporation tax…

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Post by Fraterkes »

romafirst3 wrote: post #74
anotherhue wrote: post #72

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There is no longer a path to having a family. Whatever you want to call that then.

Are they walling up vaginas? Because that’s the path to having a family.

If you're not going to be charitable and try to adress what the comment you're replying to is actually talking about, why talk at all?

Re: Half of Ireland's young people have low level of mental wellbeing

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Post by ergonomicist »

negamax wrote: post #8

Ireland should be an international study about how a state destroyed itself by running a gigantic welfare state despite all of world's money pouring into it Almost €300B national debt. Government is giving free houses, money to people who don't work. It's the only relatively wealthy European country with unlimited dole. And people make a lifestyle out of living on welfare forever. This is despite huge corporation tax…

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Re: Half of Ireland's young people have low level of mental wellbeing

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Post by romafirst3 »

Fraterkes wrote: post #77
romafirst3 wrote: post #74

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Are they walling up vaginas? Because that’s the path to having a family.

If you're not going to be charitable and try to adress what the comment you're replying to is actually talking about, why talk at all?

The article title is just a hyperbolic statement about something. Blocking the path to a family is just another hyperbolic statement that is patently untrue.

But in all seriousness in response to your question, why respond at all, the answer I would argue is it is super important to respond. If you don't respond you leave exaggerated statements unchallenged and then people just ingest them without using any critical thinking. There are tons of examples of it happening in the US news media and it does change people's perspectives of what is happening in the world. If left unchallenged a casual reader would just assume that the sky was falling down in Ireland which couldnt' be further from the truth.

Re: Half of Ireland's young people have low level of mental wellbeing

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Post by angrais »

nequo wrote: post #18
angrais wrote: post #5

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Was this comment generated by AI?

Looks human to me and to https://gptzero.me/ . What made you think it was AI?

The repetition in the last sentence and use of "Overall". The structure of the first paragraph too.

I appreciate this may not have been the case (sorry OP), which is why I asked the above question.

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