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Re: TwitchAdSolutions – Blocking Twitch Ads

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Post by TechSquidTV »

leetharris wrote: post #61

Why don't people just pay the $10/month if you consume enough for ads to annoy you? I really don't get the extreme amount of effort people put into adblocking for services that have a paid alternative. People have this expectation of all these internet services being free which is wild to me. It costs an enormous amount of bandwidth to run Twitch. It is still not profitable because it's such a hard business model to…

People are entitled and constantly fed rhetoric online that it is morally acceptable to steal by blocking ads. As a YouTube content creator, who makes educational tech videos, I have seen my share of complaints because I dare to take a sponsorship. People simply do not assign value to digital goods, they are seen as free by default.

Re: TwitchAdSolutions – Blocking Twitch Ads

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Post by dylan604 »

pc86 wrote: post #27
2024throwaway wrote: post #23

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As comes up whenever the "waiting for a new code" issue is discussed, you can enter that "old" code for usually up to 30 seconds. You don't need to wait.

I always forget which services this works for and which ones it doesn't :)

might as well try it while you're waiting, yeah? if you get in, you're done. if not, you were just going to wait anyways.

Re: TwitchAdSolutions – Blocking Twitch Ads

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Post by SadWebDeveloper »

leetharris wrote: post #61

Why don't people just pay the $10/month if you consume enough for ads to annoy you? I really don't get the extreme amount of effort people put into adblocking for services that have a paid alternative. People have this expectation of all these internet services being free which is wild to me. It costs an enormous amount of bandwidth to run Twitch. It is still not profitable because it's such a hard business model to…

Yes but their primary target audience is... Teens and young adults and maybe some p.dos looking for "ASMR sutff" if you now what i mean.

What that target audience have in common... tons on times and low to zero income, so since they have time to spend trying to not pay because they don't have money to begin with, then it will happen.

Twitch is betting on having a "YouTube moment", when those teens and young adults become adults with real money, they would love to avoid the hassle of going ad-free for 10 bucks a month because they love the content that is there, so for them would be at max 1 hour of their total income, meanwhile it has to stuck taking the loses till that moment happen.

Re: TwitchAdSolutions – Blocking Twitch Ads

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Post by ToucanLoucan »

jsheard wrote: post #53
ToucanLoucan wrote: post #48

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I really think this an under-appreciated or perhaps under-researched phenomenon that is becoming more and more prevalent. It isn't just that ads are everywhere at all times (though that is also awful for a buffet of reasons) but it's the same fucking ads, likely because I am being targeted by a set of them that I'm "likely to respond to" which I then prove wrong every single day. But hot shit, I have heard the fuckin…

> But hot shit, I have heard the fucking insipid jingle for Chumba Casino so many goddamn times Yeah, casinos are probably the worst intersection between irritating ads and having enormous budgets to make sure you see them a million times. Here it's this fucking guy on Twitch all the time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3CKkQkON8A From the YouTube comments you can see the campaign has really captured the heart of t…

Honestly I think our society as a whole would leap forward 200 years if we just sent all the marketers to the moon, but I'm biased. I find all sales people generally irritating for similar reasons. It seems like you just have to lack a certain amount of humanity to take on that job.

Kinda related, Twitter advertising has also absolutely cratered too. I consistently get ads for weight loss drugs and the fucking Liver King of all people. I have no idea what their ad algo has decided about me but it is incredibly, irrevocably wrong.

Re: TwitchAdSolutions – Blocking Twitch Ads

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Post by TechSquidTV »

hkwerf wrote: post #67
leetharris wrote: post #61

Why don't people just pay the $10/month if you consume enough for ads to annoy you? I really don't get the extreme amount of effort people put into adblocking for services that have a paid alternative. People have this expectation of all these internet services being free which is wild to me. It costs an enormous amount of bandwidth to run Twitch. It is still not profitable because it's such a hard business model to…

> Why don't people just pay the $10/month if you consume enough for ads to annoy you? What if you believe that ads are even unacceptable once if you watch twitch rarely?

Then you do not use the service, as that is the terms of the agreement.

Re: TwitchAdSolutions – Blocking Twitch Ads

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Post by jorams »

pm215 wrote: post #42
altendo wrote: post #11

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I think this is configurable on the streamer's end. I watch a lot of PirateSoftware and he's talked about how choosing to run ads at certain intervals vs running them before the stream starts affected his viewership levels. I don't immediately have a video of him saying that, but I imagine there's a YouTube short where he describes that. All things considered though, I think you are right that the option that forces…

I think that might depend somewhat on what the stream is. For instance I watch quite a bit of Zelda Ocarina of Time Randomizer race restreams on Twitch. For those it is much much better to have some up-front ads when I join the stream, which is almost always during the "stream starts in 15 minutes" countdown, rather than to have ads appear mid-race. I don't know how much control the streamer has over this kind of thi…

> I don't know how much control the streamer has over this kind of thing, though.

Quite a bit. As long as the streamer is running 3 minutes of ads per hour there will not be prerolls. Ad breaks can be run manually or on a configurable schedule, and scheduled ad breaks can be snoozed for 5 minutes (up to 3 times I think) if they arrive at a bad time.

You can't stack preroll free-time for more than an hour though, so you don't get 5 hours without prerolls by running 15 minutes of ads at once.

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Post by ben_jones »

leetharris wrote: post #61

Why don't people just pay the $10/month if you consume enough for ads to annoy you? I really don't get the extreme amount of effort people put into adblocking for services that have a paid alternative. People have this expectation of all these internet services being free which is wild to me. It costs an enormous amount of bandwidth to run Twitch. It is still not profitable because it's such a hard business model to…

Because eventually premium users will get ads too as we are seeing with many other streaming services.

First it’s pay, no ads. Then it’s higher tier for no ads. Then it’s higher tier no ads but watch a trailer at the beginning. Then it’s higher tier and ads.

Re: TwitchAdSolutions – Blocking Twitch Ads

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Post by hkwerf »

TechSquidTV wrote: post #75
hkwerf wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Why don't people just pay the $10/month if you consume enough for ads to annoy you? What if you believe that ads are even unacceptable once if you watch twitch rarely?

Then you do not use the service, as that is the terms of the agreement.

Is it? Maybe twitch could make the terms more easier to understand. As it stands, it's a wall of text, almost nobody will consider. At first glance, I don't see any clause similar to what you suggest.

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Post by ffsm8 »

guipsp wrote: post #66
leetharris wrote: post #61

Why don't people just pay the $10/month if you consume enough for ads to annoy you? I really don't get the extreme amount of effort people put into adblocking for services that have a paid alternative. People have this expectation of all these internet services being free which is wild to me. It costs an enormous amount of bandwidth to run Twitch. It is still not profitable because it's such a hard business model to…

> Why don't people just pay the $10/month if you consume enough for ads to annoy you? No such option exists

https://www.twitch.tv/turbo?no-mobile-redirect=true

I feel like that was close enough for their point to stand

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