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Re: Kate editor on all platforms

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Post by karmajunkie »

nequo wrote: post #31
sneak wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

vim and emacs are TUI; Kate is a GUI app. VSCode is a full-fledged IDE; Kate is much simpler. Think of it as comparable to TextEdit or notepad.exe, but with more features. It's definitely trending in the VSCode direction, but VSCode is full of surveillance and corporate API clients, and Kate is not.

Emacs is not TUI. Its main frontend is GUI, you can display images, play videos, read PDFs in it if you want to.

Come again? Most people install the windowed version of it today, but its history is very definitely TUI-based. All of the features you mentioned are things that have been added along the way as its container was able to support them.

Re: Kate editor on all platforms

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Post by wlesieutre »

127 wrote: post #66
jwrallie wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also k3b was an amazing software for burning CDs back then, its interface easily rivaled contemporary proprietary software. KDE 3.5 was one of the peaks (if not the peak) of graphical interfaces on GNU/Linux. Experiencing KDE at the time I was used to the Windows XP interface felt amazing, and soon after Vista promises of innovation on interface were nothing compared to what could be done in Compiz (More on the Gnome…

Konqueror and KHTML was also the basis for Google Chrome IIRC.

By way of WebKit

Re: Kate editor on all platforms

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Post by mxuribe »

Lyngbakr wrote: post #26

I'd never heard of Kate and wondered if someone could explain what Kate's differentiator is versus other popular editors (e.g., Vim, Emacs, VSCode)? Is there something in particular that sets it apart or is it just a matter of taste?

I suppose its a bit of several reasons: for sure taste, but also features, performance, etc. Its a GUI-based text editor, and not a big full-fledged IDE like VSCode. In my opinion, it pretty much follows the KDE philosophy (that I'll poorly paraphrase here) in that: using it and its features in their default settings will be totally fine to use as-is, but - like KDE Plasma for example - there are plenty of features that you can also unlock way beyond the default in order to allow for lots of customization and flexibility. It also is lightweight on resources considering its number of available features; closer to VIM, and lots lighter-weight than say VSCode. Many people would categorize Kate with other text editors like Geany, Notepad++, etc...and I agree with that categorization. Not sure if that helps! Then again, you could always check out some vidoes of Kate in use on youtube, or, if so inclined, perhaps try installing it and give it a run?

Re: Kate editor on all platforms

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Post by selbyk »

xvedejas wrote: post #59
jwrallie wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also k3b was an amazing software for burning CDs back then, its interface easily rivaled contemporary proprietary software. KDE 3.5 was one of the peaks (if not the peak) of graphical interfaces on GNU/Linux. Experiencing KDE at the time I was used to the Windows XP interface felt amazing, and soon after Vista promises of innovation on interface were nothing compared to what could be done in Compiz (More on the Gnome…

KDE is still great! I continue to see improvements and KDE6 has some killer features like KDE Connect. (we still don't talk about KDE4 though)

KDE Connect has been around and amazingly useful since 2013

Re: Kate editor on all platforms

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Post by leejoramo »

presbyterian wrote: post #13

Kate is such an impressive editor, I’m glad that it’s being worked on and ported to other operating systems, and I didn’t know it had LSP support now! Good to see! If anything happens to BBEdit, Kate may be my next move

Now I am interested

BBEdit is the default editor for me.

I say this has someone who has used BBEdit since around 1997. And while for the last 15 years I have moved on to primarily using Sublime and then VSCode, I always configure them to be as close to BBEdit as possible, though I can never match BBEdit’s Single/Multi-File Search and Replace or Compare features.

Similarity dispute macOS being my favorite Desktop Environment, KDE has been my primary development DE for the past 2 years. So I really need to give Kate a chance.

Re: Kate editor on all platforms

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Post by nequo »

karmajunkie wrote: post #71
nequo wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Emacs is not TUI. Its main frontend is GUI, you can display images, play videos, read PDFs in it if you want to.

Come again? Most people install the windowed version of it today, but its history is very definitely TUI-based. All of the features you mentioned are things that have been added along the way as its container was able to support them.

Historically being TUI-centric doesn’t mean that it is not GUI today, right?

It supports all your fonts, font ligatures, varying font sizes inside the same buffer, renders images inside your buffers, all without relying on a terminal emulator or Sixel support. Sounds fundamentally not TUI to me.

Re: Kate editor on all platforms

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Post by The_Colonel »

xvedejas wrote: post #59
jwrallie wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also k3b was an amazing software for burning CDs back then, its interface easily rivaled contemporary proprietary software. KDE 3.5 was one of the peaks (if not the peak) of graphical interfaces on GNU/Linux. Experiencing KDE at the time I was used to the Windows XP interface felt amazing, and soon after Vista promises of innovation on interface were nothing compared to what could be done in Compiz (More on the Gnome…

KDE is still great! I continue to see improvements and KDE6 has some killer features like KDE Connect. (we still don't talk about KDE4 though)

KDE4 is a sad story. It ruined the reputation of KDE for a very long time. I loved KDE 3.5, but then came back to KDE only in 2021.

It's mostly just a problem of communication. KDE 4.0 should not have been marked as stable and should not been used by distros. If they baked KDE4 for two more years and on the side maintained/developed 3.5, the transition might be much smoother.

Re: Kate editor on all platforms

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Post by BeetleB »

jwrallie wrote: post #56
andmarios wrote: post #45

Kate was one of the main reasons I switched to Linux in 2004/2005. I had a lab in MySQL, and back then, the only option to develop in Windows was MySQL Workbench, which was as heavy as it got. Running an SQL statement was painfully slow, and iteration cycles were huge. In Linux, you would write your SQL in Kate, and run MySQL's cli in the embedded terminal. Once ready, you would click the button “pipe to terminal". I…

Also k3b was an amazing software for burning CDs back then, its interface easily rivaled contemporary proprietary software. KDE 3.5 was one of the peaks (if not the peak) of graphical interfaces on GNU/Linux. Experiencing KDE at the time I was used to the Windows XP interface felt amazing, and soon after Vista promises of innovation on interface were nothing compared to what could be done in Compiz (More on the Gnome…

Ah, k3b. Good memories. Seems the project is alive and well!
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