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Re: Aider: AI pair programming in your terminal

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I _cannot_ wait for you to get local models working with this (I know, they need function calling/streaming first). It's amazing! I burned through $10 like it was nothing and bigger context+local is going to make this killer IMHO. It needs additional guidance and with more context maybe loading lint rules into the context would get back code matching my coding style/guide but even as-is there is a ton of value here.…

Thanks for trying it and your feedback. I'm keeping tabs on open source/local models and will include them as soon as it's feasible. I hear you on the API costs. You should see my OpenAI bills from building Plandex :-/

If you're thinking it is expensive, wait until you start to play with Claude Opus. Sooner or later I will declare bankrupt

Nice product BTW. I really liked the UI, is very polished

Re: Aider: AI pair programming in your terminal

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I just tried it and it's amazingly cool, but the quality of the output just isn't there for me yet. It makes too much subtle errors to be as useful as the screenshots and the gifs makes it look

I agree with you. It's okay at really simple code changes for really simple repos, but it falls apart for anything outside the ordinary.

I'm sure I'll have to eat these words, but: This just doesn't feel like the right interface to me. LLMs are incredible at generating "inroads" to a problem, but terrible at execution. Worse yet at anticipating future problems.

All this might very well change. But until it does, I just want my LLMs to help me brainstorm and help me with syntax. I think there's a sweet spot somewhere between this tool and Copilot, but I'm not sure where.

Re: Aider: AI pair programming in your terminal

#74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I _cannot_ wait for you to get local models working with this (I know, they need function calling/streaming first). It's amazing! I burned through $10 like it was nothing and bigger context+local is going to make this killer IMHO. It needs additional guidance and with more context maybe loading lint rules into the context would get back code matching my coding style/guide but even as-is there is a ton of value here.…

Thanks for trying it and your feedback. I'm keeping tabs on open source/local models and will include them as soon as it's feasible. I hear you on the API costs. You should see my OpenAI bills from building Plandex :-/

> You should see my OpenAI bills from building Plandex :-/

Sorry if you have answered this before, but can you estimate how many man hours were saved using OpenAI or was the high usage more test related?

Re: Aider: AI pair programming in your terminal

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post #74

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Thanks for trying it and your feedback. I'm keeping tabs on open source/local models and will include them as soon as it's feasible. I hear you on the API costs. You should see my OpenAI bills from building Plandex :-/

> You should see my OpenAI bills from building Plandex :-/ Sorry if you have answered this before, but can you estimate how many man hours were saved using OpenAI or was the high usage more test related?

I have used Plandex a lot to help build Plandex faster, but yeah the high API costs are much more due to testing, where I need to run large tasks over and over in rapid succession in order to debug problems or iterate on the built-in prompts.

Re: Aider: AI pair programming in your terminal

#78

I'm interested in this and will probably set it up but I wish more AI tools were better integrated to my IDE. I know GH Copilot is and other big AI tools have plugins with chat/edit features but most of the cool open source doesn't seem to support IDEA/JetBrains. I see the power of LLMs. I use GH Copilot, I use ChatGPT, but I crave deeper integration in my existing toolset. I need to force myself to try in-IDE Copilo…

In my experience, Supermaven makes Copilot look like a joke, and they’ve just released a Jetbrains plugin. YMMV. It’s just code suggestions though, no chat box.

Re: Aider: AI pair programming in your terminal

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If you prefer GUI with more space to write task requirements, or use your existing ChatGPT/Claude subscription without additional API costs, you can check out my desktop app: https://prompt.16x.engineer/

Everyone has one, I just made a script to print all the files in the current folder to the terminal. I have .context-ignore files to exclude some patterns, similar to .gitignore The first file is a README.md that contains my initial description of what I am working on. At the end I type a new command. I copy & paste the text into chatGPT web interface.

I think I used it for 10-15 rounds of iteration on my latest project and it generated about 50% of the code of a web app with Python backend. Pretty sweet and costs nothing on top of the web subscription. The funny part is that I was using this AI coding tool to build another AI tool to manage a collection of prompts and demonstrations including automatic prompt evaluation, so I was using an AI tool to make another AI tool.

Re: Aider: AI pair programming in your terminal

#80
So many AI coding agents popping up that claim to build entire projects but all I'm interested in (happy to pay):

- Review GitHub PR and suggest fixes.

- Improve the readability of code with a single command (devs suck at naming variables).

- context aware autocomplete for real

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