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curious to hear does anyone know what the mentioned alternatives are? a super simple to use wireguard control plane is super valuable and PiVPN seemed to fit that gap perfectly unfortunate that it's come to an end but it's nice to hear the maintainer moving on in such a positive way :)
Anyone got a recommendation for a router with Wireguard support baked in? I've been running PiVPN on a separate box but since I need a new router anyways and it's not going to be supported, that might be a viable replacement.
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You can maintain it right now. Make a fork, and continue development. You might even get some shoutout from the original devs. It's all open source after all, making this repo read-only doesn't mean the project's dead if the community is vibrant enough.
The community matters. It's one thing to get control of the official websites, official packages, etc, and another to have to tell every single user "come use my fork".
> "But I want and can maintain it, can I take it over?" Let me put it plain and simple: No! I don't know you, I don't trust you! Fork it and carry on!
For something security critical like VPN, ownership change is a big deal. Users trust project's reputation. So if there is not a a trusted successor, shutting it down is way better that giving it up to unknown people.
curious to hear does anyone know what the mentioned alternatives are? a super simple to use wireguard control plane is super valuable and PiVPN seemed to fit that gap perfectly unfortunate that it's come to an end but it's nice to hear the maintainer moving on in such a positive way :)
wg-easy comes to mind
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That scenario is exactly what PiVPN is avoiding by refusing to nominate a new maintainer and telling interested parties to fork--so what is your actual and concrete objection? Fork the project. Earn your own trust.
> so what is your actual and concrete objection? This: > I wish people would put their projects in something like https://www.codeshelter.co so anyone who's interested can maintain them, instead of just killing them
Forking the project and earning your own trust really is the safe path forward.
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> I've been giving less and less attention to PiVPN, and the desire to keep up with it is no longer what it once was. I wonder if financial/monetary incentive would change this. I don't think it would personally (because putting a value on your free time/mental load/time you can spend with your loved ones doing something else away from the PC is precious) On the flip side... $500/mo? $1k/mo? $5k/mo? I'm sure most pro…
A lot of these projects are made in people's leisure time, without profitability, for other fellow geeks, and the users also uses them in their hobbies. And as fellow geeks, we are more likely to be financially poised to be on the other side of the equation: getting paid to write code, rather than being able to pay a developer's wage, at least not in the long term, not in any maintainable manner. Can you afford to pa…
curious to hear does anyone know what the mentioned alternatives are? a super simple to use wireguard control plane is super valuable and PiVPN seemed to fit that gap perfectly unfortunate that it's come to an end but it's nice to hear the maintainer moving on in such a positive way :)
After meaning for years to spend the 2-3 hours I’d need to set up wire guard and get all my devices on it that I’d want on it (it’s a bit fiddly and time consuming, and inevitably with projects like that, there’s some dumb problem that comes up that wastes a bunch of time) I just did the free tier of Tailscale. Server, two Apple TVs, a couple phones, a tablet, and a laptop all on it in like 15 minutes flat. With one…
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You could probably get someone , but would you get someone good (competent, trustworthy, etc)? Perhaps Jia Tan is looking for a new gig.
>You could probably get someone, but would you get someone good (competent, trustworthy, etc)? The same could be asked of people who work on open projects for free, could it not? Is a financial reward (or lack of such reward), in and of itself, some sort of implicit indicator of the quality of the person putting forth the effort?
When working for free on my hobby projects, I do my absolute best. Now try to pay me $3.50 per hour for similar work (strictly +Infinity% more than before!), I'll probably flat out refuse / won't focus on it as much.
curious to hear does anyone know what the mentioned alternatives are? a super simple to use wireguard control plane is super valuable and PiVPN seemed to fit that gap perfectly unfortunate that it's come to an end but it's nice to hear the maintainer moving on in such a positive way :)
Anyone got a recommendation for a router with Wireguard support baked in? I've been running PiVPN on a separate box but since I need a new router anyways and it's not going to be supported, that might be a viable replacement.