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Asus refunds Zenfone buyer for failing to provide bootloader unlock tools

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Re: Asus refunds Zenfone buyer for failing to provide bootloader unlock tools

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Okay - so which devices are left that are easily rootable? I will be in the market for new one soon. It's good if EU after mandating usb-c also mandates unlockable bootloaders for whomever wants it.

Lenovo's Moto phones

Re: Asus refunds Zenfone buyer for failing to provide bootloader unlock tools

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EMV chip cards still contain your card number and expiry date. Skimmers would need a way to also learn the CVC2 from the back of the card to use it at most (but not all!) online merchants, but that's feasible using a small camera or a waiter/cashier accomplice doing the skimming. With Google Pay and Apple Pay, and similar mobile wallets, that number is never shared during payments (and in fact not even stored on the…

They do, but you can't get the card number from reading the chip. The protocol is a challenge-response one based on a private key stored within the chip. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chip_Authentication_Program You need to read the entire card number + cvc2 + expiry date with your camera. That's not skimming, that's just taking a photo of the card.

Yeah, and it's easily solvable with a sticker or a dremel to scrape the number off

Re: Asus refunds Zenfone buyer for failing to provide bootloader unlock tools

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Long is gone the time where unlocking bootloaders and installing custom ROMs was the best path to follow. Even if you are able to unlock it (with difficulties such as this one, or others that involve opening the device and soldering a shortcut), you will have a device where apps check for unlocked bootloaders and rooted OS, and forbid you from use the application.

It sure isn't what it used to be, but if you buy the right phone and make a few moderate compromises, it's still a great option. Installing crDroid on my OnePlus 9 Pro took half an hour, another half to install Magisk Delta with a few modules. The universal dark mode alone (Xposed module "DarQ") is worth the effort, but also the ability to clone apps, have proper clipboard sync, make full-system backups and customise…

Eh... that's why I'm pondering going back to OnePlus (after short affair with Samsung for the past 2 years) because it's somewhat annoying not being able to tweak stuff...

Alas, it's also annoying that some dumb banks (I'm looking at you ING Poland) consider rooted device as "insecure" but thay have no problem if I open a bank page using admin/root account on the computer)

Re: Asus refunds Zenfone buyer for failing to provide bootloader unlock tools

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Not while charging.

USB C to 3.5mm Headphone and Charger Adapter, 2-in-1 USB Type C to Aux Jack Dongle Cable with PD 60W Fast Charging $8.99 I like headphone jacks too but I’m not going to pretend that this isn’t a solved problem.

Yeah I bet that 9$ widget definitely won't induce audio quality issues while you pump 60W through it...

Re: Asus refunds Zenfone buyer for failing to provide bootloader unlock tools

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You mean Microsoft Windows which dropped support for Zen 1 with Win11 not even 5 years after Zen 1 was released? Meanwhile, Linux will still run on a 30+ year old CPU...

They said software support, not hardware support. You can take a win 95 gui app and run it on windows 10 without issue. You can’t do the same on Linux.

In context, it looks like they meant software updates, which is closer to what your calling hardware support.

Re: Asus refunds Zenfone buyer for failing to provide bootloader unlock tools

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Long is gone the time where unlocking bootloaders and installing custom ROMs was the best path to follow. Even if you are able to unlock it (with difficulties such as this one, or others that involve opening the device and soldering a shortcut), you will have a device where apps check for unlocked bootloaders and rooted OS, and forbid you from use the application.

This is untrue, I do this now with my Pixel and have to no issues.

Re: Asus refunds Zenfone buyer for failing to provide bootloader unlock tools

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The refund is probably not worth the time spent building the case but it sends a valuable message. Keep your promises.

I would be surprised if Asus even sends a lawyer to defend against small claims. Might be better to form a class action.

I would bet that neither small claims or class action is possible in the US because ASUS has a forced binding arbitration clause in their End User Agreement that almost no one read when they activated their phones.

Re: Asus refunds Zenfone buyer for failing to provide bootloader unlock tools

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Long is gone the time where unlocking bootloaders and installing custom ROMs was the best path to follow. Even if you are able to unlock it (with difficulties such as this one, or others that involve opening the device and soldering a shortcut), you will have a device where apps check for unlocked bootloaders and rooted OS, and forbid you from use the application.

This is rubbish. I'm running GrapheneOS and have left my bootloader unlocked, and there's no app that has refused to work. The only caveat is some of them need Google Play services. No, I am not rooted, but my last phone was rooted and there might have been one or two apps out of dozens that wouldn't work with root even with Magisk trying to hide the root status. Using a custom ROM is easily one of the beat choices I have made.
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