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Roku files patent to inject ads via HDMI

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Re: Roku files patent to inject ads via HDMI

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Why are forced ads still a thing? When given choice, people escape them - via netflix or adblock. The same people spend their free time watching youtube reviews, chatting on gear forums, or recommending each other deals on social media; it looks like people genuinely want to learn about good and fairly priced products. I sincerely hope we’ll find a better way of reaching an audience than forced ads.

Don't worry, there will be a small monthly subscription of $9.99 to disable them! Or if you buy the new Roku Plus Extreme you can opt-out of personalized ads! What more could you want?

And then they will decide that no-ads should actually be slightly less ads instead. And if you are still using that Rolu Plus Extreme after two years, you don't deserve to be able to opt out anymore.

Re: Roku files patent to inject ads via HDMI

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...that seems like a really good and intuitive feature. What would expect it to do instead? Close the window? Keep it on some invisible virtual desktop? (how large is the mysterious off-screen area in which windows can be lost?)

My laptop has a 15" 1080p panel. It's attached to 2x 32" 4K panels. When I'm done for the day, I turn the screens off. When I come back the next day, all my windows are on the laptop onboard display, and if I'm lucky, resized in a way that makes them movable. If I'm unlucky, I need to close the application, re-open it, and hope it's back in a helpful way. The 2x 4K panels show me my wallpaper every morning. They don'…

For what its worth Windows should handle this well enough now. Window locations are restored when the monitor setup returns to a previous layout.

Re: Roku files patent to inject ads via HDMI

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My laptop has a 15" 1080p panel. It's attached to 2x 32" 4K panels. When I'm done for the day, I turn the screens off. When I come back the next day, all my windows are on the laptop onboard display, and if I'm lucky, resized in a way that makes them movable. If I'm unlucky, I need to close the application, re-open it, and hope it's back in a helpful way. The 2x 4K panels show me my wallpaper every morning. They don'…

For what its worth Windows should handle this well enough now. Window locations are restored when the monitor setup returns to a previous layout.

My up-to-date patched install of Windows 10 does not, unfortunately

Re: Roku files patent to inject ads via HDMI

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Ironically the fully skippable commercials on cable TV with a DVR are the best deal we can get anymore, anything in the streaming world can take control of the video stream away from you.

Piratebay still works right? I just subscribe to paramount plus again to watch discovery. Seems perfectly reasonable, they give me a program I want (with no product placement from what I can gather - unlike the JJ Abram’s films with their “Budweiser classic”. I don’t think a self sealing stem boot counts), and I give them £8 a month. Everyone is happy. However you try to double dip and I don’t give you a penny.

Piratebay may not work as smoothly.

Content doesn’t appear effortlessly on all your devices. Some subtitle languages may be missing. Less mainstream content may be of low quality, slow to download or missing too. Plus, you have to plan ahead or wait for the download to finish. At this point I would double check the streaming plan price (as long as there is an ad free tier).

Re: Roku files patent to inject ads via HDMI

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> When the media device pauses the media content, the display device can determine that a pause event has occurred and insert an ad shown on the display device. Hilarious. I love how all the streaming companies are hijacking the pause control now. Why do you think I hit pause? Pick one or more of the following: 1. I need to go to the bathroom. 2. I want to inspect the current frame more carefully. 3. I want to see an…

It depends. How accurate is Roku's guess that you may have psoriasis? Now repeat this exercise but replace Roku with Meta or Google.

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Re: Roku files patent to inject ads via HDMI

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...that seems like a really good and intuitive feature. What would expect it to do instead? Close the window? Keep it on some invisible virtual desktop? (how large is the mysterious off-screen area in which windows can be lost?)

My laptop has a 15" 1080p panel. It's attached to 2x 32" 4K panels. When I'm done for the day, I turn the screens off. When I come back the next day, all my windows are on the laptop onboard display, and if I'm lucky, resized in a way that makes them movable. If I'm unlucky, I need to close the application, re-open it, and hope it's back in a helpful way. The 2x 4K panels show me my wallpaper every morning. They don'…

For anyone else who gets stuck with a window where the draggable part is off-screen on Windows, if you click the icon in the taskbar to "focus" the window, hold Win+Shift and hit the up arrow, it'll maximize the window so you can see the controls. If it's on a different monitor, or on a "ghost" monitor your computer thinks is plugged in but isn't actually, use Win+Shift and left/right arrow keys until you can see the window :)

Still a very stupid problem to have to solve.

Re: Roku files patent to inject ads via HDMI

#78
post #26

Why are forced ads still a thing? When given choice, people escape them - via netflix or adblock. The same people spend their free time watching youtube reviews, chatting on gear forums, or recommending each other deals on social media; it looks like people genuinely want to learn about good and fairly priced products. I sincerely hope we’ll find a better way of reaching an audience than forced ads.

Don't worry, there will be a small monthly subscription of $9.99 to disable them! Or if you buy the new Roku Plus Extreme you can opt-out of personalized ads! What more could you want?

In my grandparent comment I mentioned “fairly priced products” - if the price (including ad removal) is fair and the product is good, I have no problems with paying.

Re: Roku files patent to inject ads via HDMI

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> Are you earning a living doing something you would be proud to tell your grandchildren about? No, they're probably earning a fortune they'll be proud to pass down to their grandchildren.

> No, they're probably earning a fortune they'll be proud to pass down to their grandchildren. Still a drop in the bucket compared to the billionaires being minted semimonthly through combination lottery games, though at least in both cases not a cent of the fortunes being passed to grandchildren came from me. actually you could argue that the people who did absolutely nothing for society in return for the assurance…

> Still a drop in the bucket compared to the billionaires being minted semimonthly through combination lottery games,

You only get so many shots in your life worth running with.

Re: Roku files patent to inject ads via HDMI

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> When the media device pauses the media content, the display device can determine that a pause event has occurred and insert an ad shown on the display device. Hilarious. I love how all the streaming companies are hijacking the pause control now. Why do you think I hit pause? Pick one or more of the following: 1. I need to go to the bathroom. 2. I want to inspect the current frame more carefully. 3. I want to see an…

It depends. How accurate is Roku's guess that you may have psoriasis? Now repeat this exercise but replace Roku with Meta or Google.

If your only options are "bad" and "even worse", that does not mean that one option is good. They are both, in fact, bad.
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