Earlier quoted context omitted.
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Care to back that up with any citations, or should everyone just take it on faith that what a throwaway says isn’t made up?
Facebook let Netflix see user DMs, quit streaming to keep Netflix happy
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Re: Facebook let Netflix see user DMs, quit streaming to keep Netflix happy
#72I don't recall this potential bombshell (maybe because it was shortly before a Christmas, and the NYT headline looked like just more of the same ol'): > And in 2018, Facebook told Vox that it doesn't use private messages for ad targeting. But a few months later, The New York Times, citing "hundreds of pages of Facebook documents," reported that Facebook "gave Netflix and Spotify the ability to read Facebook users’ pr…
Re: Facebook let Netflix see user DMs, quit streaming to keep Netflix happy
#73The encryption concerns here are a bit confusing IMO. Facebook owns the UI that show you the text of the messages. There doesn't have to be a backdoor into E2E encryption at all per say, a simple UI property check would give full access to message contents directly in the frontend code. Throw that into a private API and Bob's your uncle, decrypted messages that were transmitted with 100% secure E2E encryption.
Re: Facebook let Netflix see user DMs, quit streaming to keep Netflix happy
#74The article skips a lot of context to make it sound significantly worse than reality. Facebook didn't just randomly give Netflix access to everyone's messages. Specific user would need to purposefully log in to the Netflix app with their Facebook account in order to grant Netflix access to the chat functionality (intended to send movie recommendations to Facebook friends inside the Netflix app). https://about.fb.com/…
> Disclaimer: I work at Facebook but not on messaging or anything related to this article. So, it could work exactly as it sounds and you'd have no idea? --- Although I'm not sure the complaint [1] (linked from articled) actually says that messages were given. [1]: https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/compl...
Re: Facebook let Netflix see user DMs, quit streaming to keep Netflix happy
#75Earlier quoted context omitted.
open protocols in the case of Facebook and banning studios from owning/exclusivity with distributors in the case of Netflix.
So you are saying that no one can distribute their own work on thier own website? Where do you draw the line? Can I not create my own video and put it on my website? Can I not work with friends and we all post our own video on our own website that we jointly own? How do we stop foreign studios from distribution over the internet? Do we block them too? Why stop at films? Should book authors also not be slowed to self…
Same thing for publishing companies. individual authors can do whatever they like.
Re: Facebook let Netflix see user DMs, quit streaming to keep Netflix happy
#76The article skips a lot of context to make it sound significantly worse than reality. Facebook didn't just randomly give Netflix access to everyone's messages. Specific user would need to purposefully log in to the Netflix app with their Facebook account in order to grant Netflix access to the chat functionality (intended to send movie recommendations to Facebook friends inside the Netflix app). https://about.fb.com/…
So... this sounds like OAuth, with a nice consent scene that says I'm giving Netflix this access to my FB DNs. That's what you mean, right? Otherwise, what the fuck is the difference? . And really, as if this makes anything better, wow. Imagine having the feeling of obligation that you have to stick your neck out over this. Just take your over-sized salary and be happy knowing you work for one of the worst companies…
On Android, when you give a third party client permission to receive SMS, you don’t expect it to have access to your SMS?
Re: Facebook let Netflix see user DMs, quit streaming to keep Netflix happy
#77I don't recall this potential bombshell (maybe because it was shortly before a Christmas, and the NYT headline looked like just more of the same ol'): > And in 2018, Facebook told Vox that it doesn't use private messages for ad targeting. But a few months later, The New York Times, citing "hundreds of pages of Facebook documents," reported that Facebook "gave Netflix and Spotify the ability to read Facebook users’ pr…
Re: Facebook let Netflix see user DMs, quit streaming to keep Netflix happy
#78The article skips a lot of context to make it sound significantly worse than reality. Facebook didn't just randomly give Netflix access to everyone's messages. Specific user would need to purposefully log in to the Netflix app with their Facebook account in order to grant Netflix access to the chat functionality (intended to send movie recommendations to Facebook friends inside the Netflix app). https://about.fb.com/…
> Disclaimer: I work at Facebook but not on messaging or anything related to this article. So, it could work exactly as it sounds and you'd have no idea? --- Although I'm not sure the complaint [1] (linked from articled) actually says that messages were given. [1]: https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/compl...
Re: Facebook let Netflix see user DMs, quit streaming to keep Netflix happy
#79I don't recall this potential bombshell (maybe because it was shortly before a Christmas, and the NYT headline looked like just more of the same ol'): > And in 2018, Facebook told Vox that it doesn't use private messages for ad targeting. But a few months later, The New York Times, citing "hundreds of pages of Facebook documents," reported that Facebook "gave Netflix and Spotify the ability to read Facebook users’ pr…
The problem isn't whether Facebook used private messages for ad targeting (the claim they denied), its whether Facebook used private messages at all. Who cares if it was for ads, giving third party companies access should be a huge problem with or without ads.
I always try to convince people I know to ditch Messanger/WA/etc. in favor of Signal, and in many cases I've succeeded.
Re: Facebook let Netflix see user DMs, quit streaming to keep Netflix happy
#80I'm not clear whether I understood what the article is claiming. It's clear they claim that Meta shared customer's direct messages with a business partner without notifying the individuals who sent and received the messages. It also SOUNDED to me like the article was claiming they did so AFTER Meta introduced "end-to-end encryption" (which would ALSO mean that they were lying about offering end-to-end encryption). Am…
The cluster of allegations is that the Onavo acquisition put FB-designed and built rootkits underneath TLS on a significant fraction of all smartphones in the United States and that FB/IG (now Meta) used clear text access to ostensibly secure HTTPS sessions to extract arbitrary data from both competitors and partner companies to play poker with X-Ray glasses on as concerned all competition in an ostensibly free and f…
If substantiated? Just search Onavo on HN search - I thought this was widely known for years.