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Proxmox VE: Import Wizard for Migrating VMware ESXi VMs

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Re: Proxmox VE: Import Wizard for Migrating VMware ESXi VMs

#71
Does anyone have a good _basic_ guide on LVM/LVM Thin? I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around LVM and moving the vmdk to it. Mainly a Window admin with some Linux experience.

I understand that LVM holds data in it but when I make a Windows VM in proxmox it stores the data in a LVM partition(?) as opposed to ESXi or Hyper-V making a VHD or VMDK.

Kinda confusing .

Re: Proxmox VE: Import Wizard for Migrating VMware ESXi VMs

#72
post #8

I have been running proxmox at home for a few months now. It has been, to say the least, an adventure. And I have nothing but good things to say about Proxmox at this point. Its running not only my home related items (MQTT, Homeassitant), it also plays host to some of the projects I'm working on (postgres, go apps, etc...) rather than runing some sort of local dev. If you need to exit vmware, proxmox seems like a goo…

I appreciate projects like Proxmox but it must be also said that you can achieve same functionality sans the UI with tools available on most Linux distributions: libvirt, lx{c,d}, podman etc.

A big one hiding in that "etc" I think is Ceph. Proxmox has a very nice UI for setting it up easily.

Re: Proxmox VE: Import Wizard for Migrating VMware ESXi VMs

#73
post #60

If proxmox supported OVA and OVF it would be huge. It seems technically possible as there is a new experimental kvm backend for virtual box which supports OVA. At the end of the day OVA is just machine metadata packaged as XML with all required VM artifacts, there is also some cool things like supporting launch variables. Leveraging the format would bring a bunch of momentum considering all the existing OVAs in the w…

From the post in case you missed it:

Q: Will other import sources be supported in the future?

A: We plan to integrate our OVF/OVA import tools into this new stack in the future. Currently, integrating additional import sources is not on our roadmap, but will be re-evaluated periodically.

Re: Proxmox VE: Import Wizard for Migrating VMware ESXi VMs

#74
post #71

Does anyone have a good _basic_ guide on LVM/LVM Thin? I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around LVM and moving the vmdk to it. Mainly a Window admin with some Linux experience. I understand that LVM holds data in it but when I make a Windows VM in proxmox it stores the data in a LVM partition(?) as opposed to ESXi or Hyper-V making a VHD or VMDK. Kinda confusing .

proxmox is using LVM for direct attached raw volumes. LVM is just a logical volume manager for linux, which gives you more features than using old fashioned disk partitioning. I guess they chose this path for windows virtual machine migration because windows running on vmware before, does usually not have the required virtio drivers installed to support the qemu hypervisors virtio solution for disk bus virtualization out of the box. It would mean the hypervisor has to simulate IDE or SCSI bus which comes with great overhead perfomance wise (in the case of migration)

So an direct attached lvm volume is the best solution performance wise. In the vmware world this would be an direct attached raw device either from local disk or SAN.

For fresh install on proxmox its better to chose qcow as disk image format with virtio-scsi bus (comparable to vhdx, vmdk, qemus disk format) and add virtio drivers during windows setup.

Re: Proxmox VE: Import Wizard for Migrating VMware ESXi VMs

#75

I'm in game development, and I run ESXi for two reasons: * Unmodified macOS guest VMs can run under ESXi (if you're reading this on macOS, you have an Apple-made VMXNet3 network adapter driver on your system--see /System/Library/Extensions/IONetworkingFamily.kext/Contents/PlugIns/AppleVmxnet3Ethernet.kext ) * Accelerated 3D has reasonable guest support, even as pure software. You wouldn't want to work in one of those…

Note that macOS guest support ended with ESXi 7.0: https://kb.vmware.com/s/article/88698

Running macOS is only supported/licensing-compliant on Apple-branded hardware anyway, and with the supported Intel Macs getting pretty old this was inevitable anyway.

Re: Proxmox VE: Import Wizard for Migrating VMware ESXi VMs

#76
post #8

I have been running proxmox at home for a few months now. It has been, to say the least, an adventure. And I have nothing but good things to say about Proxmox at this point. Its running not only my home related items (MQTT, Homeassitant), it also plays host to some of the projects I'm working on (postgres, go apps, etc...) rather than runing some sort of local dev. If you need to exit vmware, proxmox seems like a goo…

Your experience is very relatable. My first Proxmox adventure began with installing Proxmox 8 on 2 hetzner boxes: one with CPU, one with GPU. Spent two straight weekends on the CPU box and just when I was about to give up on proxmox completely I had a good night’s sleep and things finally ‘clicked’. Now I’m drinking the proxmox koolaid 100% and making it my go-to OS.

For the GPU box I completely abandoned the install after attempting to do the gymnastics around GPU passthrough. I like Proxmox but I’m not a masochist - Looking forward to the day when that just works.

Re: Proxmox VE: Import Wizard for Migrating VMware ESXi VMs

#77
post #75

I'm in game development, and I run ESXi for two reasons: * Unmodified macOS guest VMs can run under ESXi (if you're reading this on macOS, you have an Apple-made VMXNet3 network adapter driver on your system--see /System/Library/Extensions/IONetworkingFamily.kext/Contents/PlugIns/AppleVmxnet3Ethernet.kext ) * Accelerated 3D has reasonable guest support, even as pure software. You wouldn't want to work in one of those…

Note that macOS guest support ended with ESXi 7.0: https://kb.vmware.com/s/article/88698 Running macOS is only supported/licensing-compliant on Apple-branded hardware anyway, and with the supported Intel Macs getting pretty old this was inevitable anyway.

Mac mini 2018 is still the best Mac for vms

   6 cores 12 threads
   64GB DDR
   nvme
   4 thunderbolt3 ports for pci expansion
   10GbE onboard nic
   boots ESXi
   boots Proxmox
   boots or virtualizes windows
   boots or virtualizes linux
   boots or virtualizes macos
   iGPU passthrough
   Supports nested virt

Re: Proxmox VE: Import Wizard for Migrating VMware ESXi VMs

#78
post #9

I am researching whether to buy puts on AVGO (Broadcom, owner of VMware) since I believe their Vmware revenue will crater in 12 months or so. They took on 32 billion in debt to buy VMW also, which will tank their stock price, I think.

It’s not about whether you think their revenue will crater (or any other fundamentals).

It’s about answering the question: Why is the current price of puts wrong?

Re: Proxmox VE: Import Wizard for Migrating VMware ESXi VMs

#79

I'm in game development, and I run ESXi for two reasons: * Unmodified macOS guest VMs can run under ESXi (if you're reading this on macOS, you have an Apple-made VMXNet3 network adapter driver on your system--see /System/Library/Extensions/IONetworkingFamily.kext/Contents/PlugIns/AppleVmxnet3Ethernet.kext ) * Accelerated 3D has reasonable guest support, even as pure software. You wouldn't want to work in one of those…

* Proxmox can emulate VMWare adapters. https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/QEMU/KVM_Virtual_Machines

* If you don't mind dedicating the video card to a VM, you can do PCI-passthrough. https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/PCI_Passthrough

Re: Proxmox VE: Import Wizard for Migrating VMware ESXi VMs

#80

Anyone try to replace vsphere with the high-availabilty add-on to RHEL?

If you're open to alternatives, Proxmox does HA.

It also has some decent clustering capabilities enabling online VM migration between hosts (equivalent to VMotion), which can go a long way towards solving related use cases. :)

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