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Julian Assange granted permission to appeal against extradition to US

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Re: Julian Assange granted permission to appeal against extradition to US

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What a catastrophe. This is the ultimate evidence that there is no such thing as a free press; People are only allowed to report what their masters allow them to. The day you cross a line and in Assange's case, the day you report the crimes commited by The Empire, they crush you.

Insert "Always has been" meme.

Doesn't mean that it always has to stay that way.

Re: Julian Assange granted permission to appeal against extradition to US

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I still don't understand how a country can grant extradition of a non US citizen to the USA for "espionage". Every country is potentially spying on every other country and it doesn't even matter if they are supposed to be allies or enemies. The only limits are resources.

They're allowed to because justice is the interest of the stronger.

Re: Julian Assange granted permission to appeal against extradition to US

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> I wonder what would happen if the US gave these assurances then broke them ? Regarding the death penalty part: extraditions from Germany (and probably all of Europe) would immediately stop in capital cases. Those all rely on American assurances, and the first time it's broken, courts will disregard them for a long time.

"Would" is a strong word. "Might" seems a bit more reasonable. There is currently an escalating war in Europe and Germany has already rolled over and accepted the Nord Stream pipe as an act of God. Well, I don't actually know where their investigation is up to, but they're not acting like their infrastructure was attacked by a military. They're just taking it on the chin, probably some strongly worded diplomatic prot…

You don‘t seem to be aware of the concept of an independent judiciary.

Re: Julian Assange granted permission to appeal against extradition to US

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> It is absurd, he should be on a flight right now. For the crime of reporting information that embarrassed the US government.

Wrecklessly and without simple redaction, in such a way that very well might have resulted in the deaths of US officials. And highly questionable selective publishing.

I think the guy is getting fucked over in this unfairly, but let's not pretend he has released information to a reasonable standard.

Re: Julian Assange granted permission to appeal against extradition to US

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> It is absurd, he should be on a flight right now. For the crime of reporting information that embarrassed the US government.

Wrecklessly and without simple redaction, in such a way that very well might have resulted in the deaths of US officials. And highly questionable selective publishing. I think the guy is getting fucked over in this unfairly, but let's not pretend he has released information to a reasonable standard.

Are there examples of that?

Re: Julian Assange granted permission to appeal against extradition to US

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I don't know why this is taking so long or why he's fighting it. He will easily win this case citing New York Times Company v. United States as the precedent.

A publisher is allowed to publish state secrets if they aren't the ones who originally obtained them.

Re: Julian Assange granted permission to appeal against extradition to US

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Given that the US is not a signatory to several international treaties and regularly employs solitary confinement, which is internationally considered as a form of torture, there is a humanitarian argument against the extradition. The desire to comply with the extradition request seems to be more about politics (i.e. maintaining good relationships with the US) than the rule of law. The treatment of Manning should be…

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As a broad methodology it isn't torture per say, sure. But the implementation in the vast majority of our justice systems 100% no question is aggregious torture.

Digestible source: last week tonight: https://youtu.be/_uSZwErdH3I?si=DfHkVDbGegVt06tJ

More detailed source: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2009/03/30/hellhole

Re: Julian Assange granted permission to appeal against extradition to US

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> It is absurd, he should be on a flight right now. For the crime of reporting information that embarrassed the US government.

Wrecklessly and without simple redaction, in such a way that very well might have resulted in the deaths of US officials. And highly questionable selective publishing. I think the guy is getting fucked over in this unfairly, but let's not pretend he has released information to a reasonable standard.

He has also been selective in his releases and timed them to affect political outcomes.

He’s just another biased media source with an agenda.

Re: Julian Assange granted permission to appeal against extradition to US

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Given that the US is not a signatory to several international treaties and regularly employs solitary confinement, which is internationally considered as a form of torture, there is a humanitarian argument against the extradition. The desire to comply with the extradition request seems to be more about politics (i.e. maintaining good relationships with the US) than the rule of law. The treatment of Manning should be…

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You have no understanding of prisons.
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