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Re: Why is the LinkedIn app almost half a gig?

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Post by jfernandezr »

gnicholas wrote: post #66

Another question: why does the feed reload when I go 'back' to it? This happens on the website and the app whenever I click into a link and then go back to the feed. It just spontaneously reloads! If I wanted to comment on the link or even just like the post, I can't (unless I remember who posted it, go to their profile, and go to their recent activity, which I almost never have the patience to do). I uninstalled the…

Because, as it happens with a lot of apps, the developer teams, product managers or whoever with decision powers are not users of their own applications.

Re: Why is the LinkedIn app almost half a gig?

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rand846633 wrote: post #63
thrnkkm wrote: post #43

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It goes opposite way as well. I have workstation with 128GB ram with a few terabytes of storage, I can run full stack with everything in single machine. I also have VM snapshots, versioning etc... There is simple script that installs all deps and setup dev machine. My colleagues have tiny Macs with 16GB. To accommodate them, we had to split mono dev setup into separate K8S cluster. On single machine I could easily sp…

> And spinning up secondary dev instances is not permitted due to high AWS cost. Time for a new employment opportunity.

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Re: Why is the LinkedIn app almost half a gig?

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Post by DanielHB »

usrusr wrote: post #36
klabb3 wrote: post #26

This is a perfect example of why the problem isn’t the stack, native vs web, or programming languages. I’ve been saying this for ages when people bash JS for being slow, or the web for being bloated. Yes, you pay a bit for the sandboxing, GC, rendering, built in accessibility. But that’s a rounding error when businesses, especially large ones, go on a PM-centric feature frenzy. You get out exactly what you put in. Pe…

It's not just PMs though: developers are forced into resume driven development by hiring practices. If they stick to the toolkit already established in the app they set themselves up for a career trajectory towards Uber driver. The risk of knowing only what was fashionable five years ago is just too big.

50% of the reason Kubernetes is getting so popular, devops people need k8 experience to move up in their careers and therefor your company is now using k8.

Re: Why is the LinkedIn app almost half a gig?

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Post by ngrilly »

klabb3 wrote: post #26

This is a perfect example of why the problem isn’t the stack, native vs web, or programming languages. I’ve been saying this for ages when people bash JS for being slow, or the web for being bloated. Yes, you pay a bit for the sandboxing, GC, rendering, built in accessibility. But that’s a rounding error when businesses, especially large ones, go on a PM-centric feature frenzy. You get out exactly what you put in. Pe…

Sounds like bad product management as much as bad engineering. I mean, the outcome — a bloated product — is bad for everyone: the users in the first place, the engineers building the product, but also the PM who can't conceivably be proud of shipping a bad product.

Re: Why is the LinkedIn app almost half a gig?

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Post by osrec »

klabb3 wrote: post #26

This is a perfect example of why the problem isn’t the stack, native vs web, or programming languages. I’ve been saying this for ages when people bash JS for being slow, or the web for being bloated. Yes, you pay a bit for the sandboxing, GC, rendering, built in accessibility. But that’s a rounding error when businesses, especially large ones, go on a PM-centric feature frenzy. You get out exactly what you put in. Pe…

Perhaps, but in my experience, this is often what happens when you have too many cooks.

People like to build corporate empires by having more subordinates. Those subordinates need to justify their existence somehow. Bloated, inefficient software is one of the unfortunate outcomes.

Re: Why is the LinkedIn app almost half a gig?

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Post by RyanHamilton »

ungreased0675 wrote: post #53
rob74 wrote: post #46

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Furthermore, I would like to see some stats how much of their traffic is via the app and how much is via the website. Of course many people have LinkedIn profiles, but are there really so many "hardcore" users who install the app? So maybe the app just isn't that important for them in the grand scheme of things, and the bloat is more the result of neglect than of hundreds of developers working (specifically) on the a…

The mobile web version is intentionally feature degraded, with occasional pop-up nags pushing the app. For that reason, I’d guess a lot of people are using the mobile app.

If you use firefox mobile, there's a toggle switch under the menu to set "Desktop Version", I have found it prevents these intentional mobile degraded sites.

Re: Why is the LinkedIn app almost half a gig?

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Post by gravescale »

ungreased0675 wrote: post #53
rob74 wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Furthermore, I would like to see some stats how much of their traffic is via the app and how much is via the website. Of course many people have LinkedIn profiles, but are there really so many "hardcore" users who install the app? So maybe the app just isn't that important for them in the grand scheme of things, and the bloat is more the result of neglect than of hundreds of developers working (specifically) on the a…

The mobile web version is intentionally feature degraded, with occasional pop-up nags pushing the app. For that reason, I’d guess a lot of people are using the mobile app.

Crippling your website on mobile to push your app is a scumbag move and guarantees I'll never create any persistent account on your system. Definitely won't be installing the app, because if you're already scum, you probably have no limits and I'm not installing what you're pushing.

Re: Why is the LinkedIn app almost half a gig?

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Post by signaru »

klabb3 wrote: post #26

This is a perfect example of why the problem isn’t the stack, native vs web, or programming languages. I’ve been saying this for ages when people bash JS for being slow, or the web for being bloated. Yes, you pay a bit for the sandboxing, GC, rendering, built in accessibility. But that’s a rounding error when businesses, especially large ones, go on a PM-centric feature frenzy. You get out exactly what you put in. Pe…

Some of my friends who work in similar situations call this "job security".
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