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Real-time map of every Starlink satellite in orbit

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Re: Real-time map of every Starlink satellite in orbit

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Post by beejiu »

doublerabbit wrote: post #70
beejiu wrote: post #66

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Nobody uses 100Mbps continuously. Not even close. Would probably average about 0.5% of that capacity. 16000/0.005 = 3.2 million customers. That's quite close to the 2.6 million they have on the page.

> Nobody uses 100Mbps continuously Only because nobody can sensibility obtain 100Mbps as a connection. I'm still stuck on 2Mb ADSL. Where games are now 30-60GB in download, family streaming is a thing. This would be topped pretty easily.

100/1024*86400/8 = 1054 GB every day

You'd have to download 17 of those games every day to saturate your 100 Mbps connection.

It's about 350 hours of Netflix streaming per day.

Re: Real-time map of every Starlink satellite in orbit

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Post by sandworm101 »

hnbad wrote: post #51
squarefoot wrote: post #42

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A single company and cheaply are usually mutually exclusive as competition is what keeps prices down.

They're not mutually exclusive as far as cost goes - quite the opposite (hence all the talk about "synergy" and "vertical integration" in enterprise spaces) - but you're right about consumer prices. I think what's keeping the consumer prices for Starlink down is that for the vast majority of its coverage it does have competition. Much like how it's in Tesla's best interests for the US not to invest in high-speed rail…

Im already seeing an impact. Rural wifi networks are being replaced by starlink, at least for those able to afford it. Starlink is certainly faster to setup and maintain, but remains far more expensive day to day than a rural wifi net.

I have family on a rural network with solar-powered relays setup on islands. New retirees to the area are just buying starlink without even asking about the local net. So it is no longer being expanded to new locations/islands. The new people also dont want relays on thier land. They dont support the local/cheap option it because they have been sold starlink by whatever off-grid company is setting up thier new cabin.

Re: Real-time map of every Starlink satellite in orbit

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Post by domh »

This is wild. I had no idea of the scope of Starlink satellites in orbit. What is the life cycle of one of these satellites? How long do they last in orbit? Can they be controlled where they crash land down? How many different versions of the satellites are in orbit? I wonder how often they have their software updated and what happens in the failure state of an unsuccessful update?

Re: Real-time map of every Starlink satellite in orbit

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Post by inemesitaffia »

londons_explore wrote: post #29
modeless wrote: post #15

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This is a bad take. There are plenty of regulatory bodies that control what SpaceX is allowed to do. The satellites are not visible to the eye in their operational orbits and are incredibly tiny compared to the vastness of space. Their depiction here is thousands of times larger than actual size.

There are 7.8 billion people on earth. 7.5 billion of them had no say at all, and 0.33 billion of them had a tiny say via elected representatives who wrote the laws before starlink was even envisioned. I'm pretty sure if a global vote was held on the question of "Would you like to have 10,000 satellites launched so you have the option of paying a US company for broadband anywhere in the world?", the vote outcome woul…

They'd also vote to end gay rights

Re: Real-time map of every Starlink satellite in orbit

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Post by inemesitaffia »

mihaic wrote: post #49
boxed wrote: post #33

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If you ask the entire world you would get stupid answers to a lot of questions. "How old is the universe?" for example would get it hilariously wrong.

You're mixing up matters of logic and fact (how old the universe is) with matters of personal preference (like what I want to eat, should flying cars fill the skyline of my city). People can be trusted a lot more in the second category, which is generally also their right. If they have valid concerns that are getting dismissed, they're not gonna like talking to you.

Some, but not all

Re: Real-time map of every Starlink satellite in orbit

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Post by mikro2nd »

danw1979 wrote: post #64
londons_explore wrote: post #29

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There are 7.8 billion people on earth. 7.5 billion of them had no say at all, and 0.33 billion of them had a tiny say via elected representatives who wrote the laws before starlink was even envisioned. I'm pretty sure if a global vote was held on the question of "Would you like to have 10,000 satellites launched so you have the option of paying a US company for broadband anywhere in the world?", the vote outcome woul…

You could ask a less leading question, like “would you like it if you had the ability to rent infrastructure to get access to a much better internet connection that your local ISPs, and even your own government have no chance of building themselves ?” I’m British, so this question definitely applies to me, by the way.

For a good portion of the world I think you'd have to add, "...at a price roughly equal to [insert large percentage, in places exceeding 100%] your monthly income," to get a more realisic response.

Re: Real-time map of every Starlink satellite in orbit

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Post by inemesitaffia »

denysvitali wrote: post #12
ada1981 wrote: post #6

It’s wild that a private company was able to take up this much orbital space / night sky and the people of the earth had no say in the matter.

I'm not an expert in this field, but I have the feeling that 3k satellites in orbit is a small percentage of what we have at the moment. What still amazes me is that the orbit seems to not be owned by any country. Reading from another comment it looks like the FCC regulated this - but I'm still confused since it covers multiple countries, and I'm pretty sure not everyone had a saying in whether they agreed on this. A…

There's the ITU

Re: Real-time map of every Starlink satellite in orbit

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Post by Etherlord87 »

londons_explore wrote: post #29
modeless wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a bad take. There are plenty of regulatory bodies that control what SpaceX is allowed to do. The satellites are not visible to the eye in their operational orbits and are incredibly tiny compared to the vastness of space. Their depiction here is thousands of times larger than actual size.

There are 7.8 billion people on earth. 7.5 billion of them had no say at all, and 0.33 billion of them had a tiny say via elected representatives who wrote the laws before starlink was even envisioned. I'm pretty sure if a global vote was held on the question of "Would you like to have 10,000 satellites launched so you have the option of paying a US company for broadband anywhere in the world?", the vote outcome woul…

What alternative do you propose? To do nothing? We organize into democracies, where everyone votes on representatives, which rule the controlling institutions giving permissions (or not) for such undertakings.

It's surprising to me so many people are angry over the sky being polluted visually, and not over common air poisoning by burning fuel, river pollution by dumping waste, ocean and sea pollution by ship transportation, plastic pollution, and many other... Rain water is already above (arbitrary) safe toxicity level and so shouldn't be drunk... So what you're doing is you're in a house fire and complain on some noise. This doesn't mean of course you're wrong: the pollution is a problem to astronomers and to the safety of space ventures.

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