> Get In Touch > Contact Sales Nope, hard pass. If you don't list your prices on your website I'm never going to be a customer.
It’s a great filter. If the price is a "contact us" it means they target businesses with more money than IT skills.
Oxide Cloud Computer. No Cables. No Assembly. Just Cloud
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Re: Oxide Cloud Computer. No Cables. No Assembly. Just Cloud
#72I'm trying to make sense of what this is. I don't get what the unique selling point is. I understand that this is about server hosting. And from context I gather that this is about Rust. It seems that special/custom hardware is involved. And they advocate for buying instead of renting servers. But I can't figure out more than that. Who should be interested in this product? Does it make sense to compare this to AWS, G…
It's like Openstack-in-a-box except with a promise that it'll behave more like AWS than Openstack. And you buy hardware.
Re: Oxide Cloud Computer. No Cables. No Assembly. Just Cloud
#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
Price delta is out of the box cloud orchestration value (imho). Most large enterprises would struggle to build this themselves (Mesos->OpenShift->Kubernetes/Tanzu/etc), so you’re paying for turnkey cloud on prem. Probably save in the long run considering public cloud margins. Enterprise CIO doesn’t want a hobby project (attempting to cobble together internal cloud orchestration and infra), they want to be able to sho…
I mean…you could also just get a z/VM system and have a few LPARs on it and just use Ansible for orchestration. Why wouldn’t an enterprise CIO just go for a mainframe system?
"just" is doing a lot of heavy lifting here, I'm not the target customer base for one of these, but if they can deliver a server rack that teams can plug in, turn on, and start deploying workloads to it in the same way they currently deploy to public clouds with familiar tooling, that seems extremely valuable to me.
It's going to depend on how well they manage to pull off the magic trick of "little or no configuration and maintenance required". If things start breaking in hard to diagnose ways, it's going to be just another broken appliance that requires expensive maintenance, and companies will be questioning why they didn't DIY it in the first place.
Re: Oxide Cloud Computer. No Cables. No Assembly. Just Cloud
#74Earlier quoted context omitted.
Does that mean that Oxide sells computers that are optimized for on-premise cloud deployments?
I think they sell something like mini and on prem gcp / aws. You just connect the thing to power and ethernet and now you got your own locally running Webinterface / API which can start VMs, networks etc
Oh neat, I can have my own DigitalOcean with one of these?!
Re: Oxide Cloud Computer. No Cables. No Assembly. Just Cloud
#75Curious if oxide is considering a 1-2U product. Feel like there is a larger potential customer base there but it also seems like they would lose the edge they built by owning the full rack. (I.e. integrating with customer TORs and network fabric is a nightmare.)
Not at the moment, but never say never.
There needs to be a dev kit of sorts. I’d be happy to recommend Oxide to some of our customers but not before I try it first. And I’m not buying a whole data centre just to play around?
Re: Oxide Cloud Computer. No Cables. No Assembly. Just Cloud
#76I'm trying to make sense of what this is. I don't get what the unique selling point is. I understand that this is about server hosting. And from context I gather that this is about Rust. It seems that special/custom hardware is involved. And they advocate for buying instead of renting servers. But I can't figure out more than that. Who should be interested in this product? Does it make sense to compare this to AWS, G…
It seems like they're vertically integrating everything from hardware to the hypervisor/orchestration layer (something that serves the same function as Kubernetes?) along with their own developer tooling for deploying and managing workloads. edit: And it seems like it's aimed at companies that don't want to pay cloud margins, but don't (yet) have the expertise to set up a production-worthy Kubernetes (or similar) clu…
The idea of a company buying an out of the box k8s because they’re not able to set it up themselves sounds insane to me. What’s the plan when it breaks? Send the server back?
Re: Oxide Cloud Computer. No Cables. No Assembly. Just Cloud
#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
> For example "3.2TB Enterprise NVMe Mixed Use AG Drive U.2 Gen4 with carrier" is $3,301.65 each That’s the pricing for people who don’t know to ask for real pricing — it’s an absolute joke. I don’t know how might extra margin gets captured here, but it’s a lot. Even in teeny tiny volumes, Dell will give something closer to real pricing, and a decent heuristic is that it’s at least 2x cheaper. This is a real SSD. Del…
Doesn’t Oxide also negotiate pricing?
And they keep the margin to have money for R&D. I kind of get it because it’s low volume for now but I don’t necessarily see the appeal of being an early adopter here.
Re: Oxide Cloud Computer. No Cables. No Assembly. Just Cloud
#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
It seems like they're vertically integrating everything from hardware to the hypervisor/orchestration layer (something that serves the same function as Kubernetes?) along with their own developer tooling for deploying and managing workloads. edit: And it seems like it's aimed at companies that don't want to pay cloud margins, but don't (yet) have the expertise to set up a production-worthy Kubernetes (or similar) clu…
The idea of a company buying an out of the box k8s because they’re not able to set it up themselves sounds insane to me. What’s the plan when it breaks? Send the server back?
I imagine the expectation is that the company obviously needs to know how to perform regular hardware maintenance, but the hypervisor/orchestration layer should be so well integrated that it doesn't require an expert team to operate (like you would need with a self-hosted Kubernetes cluster, which is notoriously difficult to understand and operate in production).
If that illusion breaks and you need to get into the weeds in the same way you do with self-hosted k8s, then the value proposition of their product goes poof. I'm just speculating, of course.
Re: Oxide Cloud Computer. No Cables. No Assembly. Just Cloud
#79Curious if oxide is considering a 1-2U product. Feel like there is a larger potential customer base there but it also seems like they would lose the edge they built by owning the full rack. (I.e. integrating with customer TORs and network fabric is a nightmare.)
I'd love a homelab sized version of the oxide system. Just looks so amazing
Re: Oxide Cloud Computer. No Cables. No Assembly. Just Cloud
#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
Companies that run large on-prem workloads and want to have similar hardware/software to what the likes of Google, FB etc. have in their data centers
Does that mean that Oxide sells computers that are optimized for on-premise cloud deployments?
That’s exactly what this is advertising, yes.