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Suno, an AI music generator

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Re: Suno, an AI music generator

#71

I think a big issue currently is that the lyric generator often mixes in the description of the style.

Yeah, I asked for an instrumental with clarinets, piano, upright bass, and baritone saxophone, and it was a song with cheesy lyrics about these instruments. If it doesn't understand "instrumental", it just sucks.

Re: Suno, an AI music generator

#72
Well... It just took me about 7 minutes to write all parts of one song, and it actually sounds like something that could have played in the radio (popular). This was in a Latin rhythm too. I don't know what to think of this :\

Re: Suno, an AI music generator

#73
As a musician and arranger this does not impress me much. Everything it spits out has a 'Top 40' kind of flavor.

I would be interested in a tool that was trained exclusively on higher quality material, like a Richard Rodgers or Cole Porter AI...

Re: Suno, an AI music generator

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I have been playing with it for the last couple of weeks. I do a lot of traditional music production for fun and was wondering how I could use Suno together with Leonardo for video and then bring it all together in my existing tools. Here are some examples. I wrote the lyrics by hand and the music has been reinforced with my existing studio equipment. For me, that is where the gold is. Not replacing myself, but exten…

All the sounds always sound so blurred together, as if there’s no space between the drum, bass, pad, melody, vocal etc layers

Re: Suno, an AI music generator

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"OpenAI faces multiple lawsuits over ChatGPT’s use of books, news articles, and other copyrighted material in its vast corpus of training data. Suno’s founders decline to reveal details of just what data they’re shoveling into their own model, other than the fact that its ability to generate convincing human vocals comes in part because it’s learning from recordings of speech, in addition to music." Surely they own t…

Specifics of the law aside, it seems quite unfair to not allow AI to learn from copyrighted examples. Imagine an aspiring human musician not being allowed to listen to copyrighted music for inspiration!

Humans and computers are different. It’s perfectly reasonable to treat a human being listening to something and taking inspiration differently from a computer listening to everything ever recorded.

Re: Suno, an AI music generator

#77

How exactly does a company of 12 people implementing the research of others on compute paid for by investors lacking in technical savvy “change everything”? Is it really possible to just pay for an article in rolling stone now? You could write essentially the exact same piece about dozens of other start ups in the generative AI space right now. Might be effective PR, but it’s bad advertising.

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Re: Suno, an AI music generator

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It just launched and in 5 years it's going to be better than Sora is at making videos. In the meantime, thousands to millions of writers/producers are going to use this to rapidly block out pop songs and rake in $$$ because they'll use it like the genius tool that it is.

>thousands to millions of writers/producers are going to use this to rapidly block out pop songs I’d never considered how the inevitable dystopia would sound, and it’s worse than I ever dared to fear

I’ve thought a fair bit about what the future of music looks like in the age of AI and I’m not convinced that much will change. The ease of making music on computers already set the skill bar super low. In 2021 Spotify reported that 60k tracks are submitted to the platform every day. Will it really make a difference if this number goes up by 10X?

What knowledge workers fear about AI already happened to musicians years ago. There’s a reason that the vast majority of musicians have to work a different job. This new tool will not make much difference to musicians, who are already economically marginalized.

Re: Suno, an AI music generator

#79
Being a musical artist isn't about knowing how to use tools to make a sound, it's about having the taste to know which sounds out of many are the right ones to express what you're trying to say. It's about having an idea you want to create to put out into the world.

People without ideas and taste will play with this stuff for a while because it feels like it gives them a shortcut to talent, but after a while the novelty will wear off and they'll once again have to confront the fact that they have neither ideas, taste, nor talent.

If you're just in need of lowest-common-denominator sound-alike shit, go nuts. If you're interested in music, I suggest also spending time learning to actually be a creative artist, using whatever tools you want.

Re: Suno, an AI music generator

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is no area of human creativity safe from hyper-commoditisation by ML models.

The ML models are a symptom of an already hyper-commoditized world where all the soul and human condition has been sucked out of every instance of creativity. AI is just letting us see it from a distance

BS. There's a hell of a lot of art in commercial art, and trying to make it appealing enough for people to pay for doesn't change that. This glib "no TRUE artist cares about making money" idea, and the closely coupled belief that commercial art isn't real art are just handy mental shortcuts to cop out of considering the economic damage this technology will do to working artists.
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