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Scammed by the top result for 'Bitcoin wallet' in Apple App Store

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Re: Scammed by the top result for 'Bitcoin wallet' in Apple App Store

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Post by quickslowdown »

blibble wrote: post #43
gumby wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am still surprised that when I search for a specific app (as you did for your bank) I still see junk ads before the real app shows up. Apple should be better than that. They seem to have the same bad incentive Google search does. What is CFD gambling? When I read “CFD” I always think of computational fluid dynamics and so “CFD gambling” sounds pretty cool to me. Obviously I do know I’m just overfitting to a TLA and…

contract for difference in this case: extremely short term highly leveraged bets

This guy's the least risk adverse trader on the Internet! (I know, probably not, but it's funnier this way)

Re: Scammed by the top result for 'Bitcoin wallet' in Apple App Store

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Post by quickslowdown »

OJFord wrote: post #63
jsheard wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Casino gambling is also regulated, there being some degree of oversight doesn't make it not gambling.

Sure. This is a financial instrument used by industry professionals though, not just an 'app'. You can (and some people do) call buying shares 'gambling' too, at some point it just comes down to what our definitions are and it's not very interesting.

There are professional gamblers (pro poker?). I think I understand the spirit of what you're trying to say, but CFDs are absolutely a gamble, like most investing. It just doesn't have the same stink of "casino gambling," it's a fresh cut, cologne wearing, suited up form of gambling.

Re: Scammed by the top result for 'Bitcoin wallet' in Apple App Store

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Post by m463 »

There might be an argument that the app store itself is the scam.

I think there are ~ 3m apps available right now. Apple is the only place (currently) to sell apps, or buy apps. They interpose themselves, and do a poor job of things. How can a buyer make his apps visible? How can a seller find anything?

There should not only be more app stores, there should be markets and communities and personal apps.

Re: Scammed by the top result for 'Bitcoin wallet' in Apple App Store

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Post by OJFord »

quickslowdown wrote: post #72
OJFord wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure. This is a financial instrument used by industry professionals though, not just an 'app'. You can (and some people do) call buying shares 'gambling' too, at some point it just comes down to what our definitions are and it's not very interesting.

There are professional gamblers (pro poker?). I think I understand the spirit of what you're trying to say, but CFDs are absolutely a gamble, like most investing. It just doesn't have the same stink of "casino gambling," it's a fresh cut, cologne wearing, suited up form of gambling.

> absolutely a gamble, like most investing

Yeah well like I said, definitions. If most investing is gambling then sure, I just don't find that useful.

Anyway the initial comment I was responding to was 'looking for my broker but got CFDs'; my point was they got a different broker. It's still a bad search result, but it's not a weird scam, it's just a competitor. It's not the same as looking for my bank but got crypto exchange at all.

Re: Scammed by the top result for 'Bitcoin wallet' in Apple App Store

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Post by fakedang »

blibble wrote: post #8

I don't think I've ever searched for something on the app store and not got a scam as the first result just tried it - my bank? I get crypto.com - train company app? knockoff app that charges extra fees - my broker? CFD gambling app - official government app for paying my tax? intuit product I dare to think how many people this lures in scammy ads plastered everywhere is what I'd expect from Google products not for t…

Special mention, the f***ton of Whatsapp clients on the iPad when Whatsapp didn't have any releases for the iPadOS up until last September.

Re: Scammed by the top result for 'Bitcoin wallet' in Apple App Store

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Post by ametrau »

I have been scammed before by the top result also. So not only are they taking a 30!!!!!% tax on developers (not only on profit) but they milk ad. money from shysters. Yet you still have the just “use another phone” / don’t release your app with them people. Yeah who? Monopoly B?

Re: Scammed by the top result for 'Bitcoin wallet' in Apple App Store

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Post by Rodmine »

blibble wrote: post #8

I don't think I've ever searched for something on the app store and not got a scam as the first result just tried it - my bank? I get crypto.com - train company app? knockoff app that charges extra fees - my broker? CFD gambling app - official government app for paying my tax? intuit product I dare to think how many people this lures in scammy ads plastered everywhere is what I'd expect from Google products not for t…

> scammy ads plastered everywhere is what I'd expect from Google products

This won’t fit with the manufactured popular understanding, but at the current time, Google protects you from fraud and scam better than anyone.

I have been unfortunate enough to be scammed recently from a bing search result (ad). (It was a new computer and I decided to use Edge and bing was the default search).

Apple, Microsoft etc. are rookies in this game. Google just has the benefit of experience and hence is much safer now than anyone can ever become in the near future. Because of this, scammers are much more likely to target other platforms… which happen to be Apple, Bing, Facebook etc.

Re: Scammed by the top result for 'Bitcoin wallet' in Apple App Store

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Post by CharlesW »

roflchoppa wrote: post #2

It’s crazy that you can leave reviews from within the App Store, nor can you report it to Apple from within the App Store.

> …nor can you report it to Apple from within the App Store.

You can, since 2021. https://www.theverge.com/2021/10/4/22705405/apple-report-a-p...

Re: Scammed by the top result for 'Bitcoin wallet' in Apple App Store

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Post by saywhanow »

gumby wrote: post #38
blibble wrote: post #8

I don't think I've ever searched for something on the app store and not got a scam as the first result just tried it - my bank? I get crypto.com - train company app? knockoff app that charges extra fees - my broker? CFD gambling app - official government app for paying my tax? intuit product I dare to think how many people this lures in scammy ads plastered everywhere is what I'd expect from Google products not for t…

I am still surprised that when I search for a specific app (as you did for your bank) I still see junk ads before the real app shows up. Apple should be better than that. They seem to have the same bad incentive Google search does. What is CFD gambling? When I read “CFD” I always think of computational fluid dynamics and so “CFD gambling” sounds pretty cool to me. Obviously I do know I’m just overfitting to a TLA and…

I regressively searched for the app advertised in the previous search. At around depth twelve, a search for “four” gave both an ad and top result of an app named “Four”.

If you’re curious, Four’s description is “Shop Now, Pay Later.”

Re: Scammed by the top result for 'Bitcoin wallet' in Apple App Store

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Post by cam_l »

blibble wrote: post #8

I don't think I've ever searched for something on the app store and not got a scam as the first result just tried it - my bank? I get crypto.com - train company app? knockoff app that charges extra fees - my broker? CFD gambling app - official government app for paying my tax? intuit product I dare to think how many people this lures in scammy ads plastered everywhere is what I'd expect from Google products not for t…

Hilarious. I don't think i have never seen or gotten a scam app (not including games, which I don't use) as the top result on Google Play.

In fact, I just used all your searches on Google play and got

- my bank

- the train company app

- my broker

- hmrc

The next 4 or 5 in each case were also legit. Maybe this is really something to be aware of if switching to apple? Certainly would not have been something I would have been expecting from apple (though I am pretty careful about vetting apps).

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