We had the same incident around 2007-2008 with China Airlines. The scary point that it happened almost the same place, from Taiwan to Bali about 1 hour before the landing.
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Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after mid-air incident
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Re: Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after mid-air incident
#72Earlier quoted context omitted.
NH doesn't get enough credit for how weird it is. Between the state motto, the lack of sales or income tax, and stuff like this seatbelt rule it's like we're talking about a totally different country.
It's also often incorrectly thought of as heavily democrat or liberal, perhaps due to association with neighbors like Massachusetts and Vermont. It's somewhat true, but the balance is much closer to 50/50 than those neighbors. And the largest newspaper is very Republican centric.
If it wasn't for our former governor John Sununu, (father of the current one), the US response to climate change might have been quite different.
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As if the 787 was any better. Just see the history of issues and reports about manufacturing.
Dreamliners have been flying for 13+ years now with zero hull loss accidents or fatalities. There were some teething issues with fuel leaks and batteries, but AFAICT those have long since been ironed out.
And an issue where if not regularly rebooted, preferably with staggered (by days) reboots, they lose all power, including instrumentation and controls, after 248 days of uptime.
Additionally an Airworthiness Directive from 2020 requires, at least in europe, to reboot more often than 51 days due to stale data in common core system, with various network packets being dropped and system showing incorrect data to pilots.
Re: Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after mid-air incident
#74What I don't get is why people are not using seatbelts. The only time I'm not using it is when I'm on the way to and from the bathroom. If I'm seated I'm using the seatbelt.
Probably the same reason people don't use seatbelts in buses, I'm very often the only one wearing a seatbelt when I travel by bus I've seen aftermath videos and photos, I'm not taking my chances
Interesting, I've never seen a bus with seat belts
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#75Earlier quoted context omitted.
What about flight laws/flight control modes that prevent this thing from happening? Unless the aircraft was flying in a degraded state, these limits are supposed to prevent the aircraft from suffering damage during flight.
It's a Boeing, that's not really how it works. What airplane refuses to let you do negative gs anyway?
Both 777 and 787 are full fly by wire, with the latter being unstable without computer help due to trimming of control surface sizes for greater fuel efficiency.
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#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
This. Clear Air Turbulence can strike at any time, and you - as in your body - can get seriously damaged even with moderate turbulence. Few people have ever seen severe or extreme turbulence, including the flight crews, but that can happen as well.
When I was 5 or 6 years old I was flying-sitting with my dad, as passengers, though he was an airline pilot, when we hit a pocket of "dead" air. Meals and drinks were just served. For what was at least 3-5 seconds all of the meal trays floated up, hovered and then thankfully relatively gently settled back down. My dad estimated we dropped 200 feet or so.
You've, technically, eaten food that was at zero gravity once for a short period of time.
Re: Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after mid-air incident
#77What I don't get is why people are not using seatbelts. The only time I'm not using it is when I'm on the way to and from the bathroom. If I'm seated I'm using the seatbelt.
Latam is Chilean. I am not as well traveled in all SA countries but the exposure I have had suggested that seatbelts in cars are fairly optional still, I suspect on a plane you have less incentive.
I'm from Chile and seatbelt culture is very strong and policed.
Most people in the backseats are very used to use their seatbelts, even more so in the front.
Intercity buses also have mandatory seatbelts.
Re: Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after mid-air incident
#78Reminds me of that time a japanese flight had a steep turbulence, a passenger hit the ceiling and died.
12 injured into the ceiling in this flight, kind of looks like a check of who was and wasn't wearing the belt
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This idea wouldn’t actually solve most of the biggest problems during turbulence, which is people hitting their heads on the ceiling, and people getting hit by luggage falling out of the overhead storage. I think having a cable flying around would actually be dangerous in itself. Wouldn’t want to get it caught around your neck…
> This idea wouldn’t actually solve most of the biggest problems during turbulence, which is people hitting their heads on the ceiling, … It’s two cable lines, one on the ceiling and one on the floor. Each would be separately attached to the passengers harness so the freedom of movement is only up and down, limited to the amount of slack in the short length that connects the passenger to the plane. > … and people get…
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Re: Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after mid-air incident
#80We had the same incident around 2007-2008 with China Airlines. The scary point that it happened almost the same place, from Taiwan to Bali about 1 hour before the landing.
Hardly "almost the same place", it's ~6500km away.