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mRNA vaccines: let's eradicate herpes, cure cancer, and be sick a whole lot less

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Re: mRNA vaccines: let's eradicate herpes, cure cancer, and be sick a whole lot less

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Post by tjpnz »

kingkawn wrote: post #5
cgh wrote: post #4

This is about as succinct a summary as it gets re mRNA's potential: "To create an mRNA cancer vaccine, a patient’s tumor is biopsied to identify unique target mutations —> mRNA correlating to mutations is synthesized and injected into the patient —> the patient’s cells create the targeted protein —> the creation of foreign proteins stimulates the immune system and teaches it how to recognize the target protein —> The…

Making the immune system target tissue produced by the body, even a cancerous growth, is risky business.

Even if that statement were correct what difference does it make if you're going to be in the ground in six months?

Re: mRNA vaccines: let's eradicate herpes, cure cancer, and be sick a whole lot less

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Post by munksbeer »

3q34D5b7pR5H8k6 wrote: post #51
whiterknight wrote: post #37

This comment section is being heavily censored even for very mild criticisms.

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It feels to me that the virology and vaccination field is mind-numbingly complicated, so most so called hacker objections are from people not even remotely qualified to object, since they only think they understand. Study the field for a decade, then object. Those are the objections we should pay attention to.

Re: mRNA vaccines: let's eradicate herpes, cure cancer, and be sick a whole lot less

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Post by pcthrowaway »

cbeach wrote: post #38

It's a shame mRNA vaccines don't work like traditional vaccines. The problem with mRNA vaccines is that they cause the immune system to attack healthy cells throughout the body, when the injected mRNA causes those cells to emit foreign proteins. For most parts of the body, that's fine, because it's okay to gain some muscle scar tissue in the arm. But muscle scar tissue in the heart will measurably shorten one's life…

This is fascinating. Where can I learn more about this?

Re: mRNA vaccines: let's eradicate herpes, cure cancer, and be sick a whole lot less

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Post by someotherperson »

Very excited to look forward to a future where the entire Herpesviridae family is wiped out (whether it's Epstein-Barr, HSV-1/2, whatever). HPV too. Really exciting time. I tend to visit /r/HerpesCureResearch every now and then to see the progress. I imagine something like this would be a gamechanger on so many levels.

One day I hope that HIV is also finally vaccinated for.

Re: mRNA vaccines: let's eradicate herpes, cure cancer, and be sick a whole lot less

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Post by tjpnz »

munksbeer wrote: post #72
3q34D5b7pR5H8k6 wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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It feels to me that the virology and vaccination field is mind-numbingly complicated, so most so called hacker objections are from people not even remotely qualified to object, since they only think they understand. Study the field for a decade, then object. Those are the objections we should pay attention to.

The human immune system is the most complicated biological system we've made any significant progress in understanding. But I would be prepared to listen to a contrarian who's spent several months deep diving the literature. Sadly, I've yet to meet such an individual.

Re: mRNA vaccines: let's eradicate herpes, cure cancer, and be sick a whole lot less

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Post by imtringued »

epistasis wrote: post #53
azangru wrote: post #9

> RNA is fragile. So, like in the COVID mRNA vaccines, these instructions can be delivered in a protective fatty bubble called a “lipid nanoparticle.” Think of it like a balloon made of fatty acids, with the instructions nestled inside. Once injected, these lipid nanoparticles take the mRNA instructions into cells, where the fatty bubble degrades, mRNA instructions are released, and the cell’s machinery start to prod…

> What makes an mRNA vaccine more appealing than a protein-based one? Having worked on the same targeting mechanisms for protein based vaccines meant to be personalized cancer therapies, and having followed the mRNA vaccines with envy, the benefits are absolutely massive. But there's not a single alternative. In comparison to each type: Short peptides injection are worse because: minimal immune stimulation, less of a…

Don't feel sad. There are many people in your situation, who wonder why there is so much backlash to their ideas even though you have done due diligence and are working in good faith and genuinely think that your approach/idea/invention is a boon to humanity.

Re: mRNA vaccines: let's eradicate herpes, cure cancer, and be sick a whole lot less

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Post by JPLeRouzic »

tux3 wrote: post #48
azangru wrote: post #9

> RNA is fragile. So, like in the COVID mRNA vaccines, these instructions can be delivered in a protective fatty bubble called a “lipid nanoparticle.” Think of it like a balloon made of fatty acids, with the instructions nestled inside. Once injected, these lipid nanoparticles take the mRNA instructions into cells, where the fatty bubble degrades, mRNA instructions are released, and the cell’s machinery start to prod…

The mRNA vaccine mostly stays near the site of injection: your arm. This is why your arm mostly aches, and the rest of your body not so much. A bunch of cells there will die, because your immune system much prefers an innocent cell dead than a infected cell continuing to multiply. But you have plenty of cells. Really quite a lot. So it is entirely worth it. We can try to optimize how much protein cells will make from…

> But you have plenty of cells. Really quite a lot.

We have also a lot of cells that do not divide such as neurons, or some cardiac cells.

Re: mRNA vaccines: let's eradicate herpes, cure cancer, and be sick a whole lot less

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Post by 18638 »

tjpnz wrote: post #65
whiterknight wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If it’s low quality/troll posts then I agree. But ignoring high quality criticism is not going to lead you to truth. I’m afraid on this topic people feel justified in disregarding or it makes them uncomfortable to scrutinize what they did or said.

The bulk of the downvoted comments are literally saying mRNA vaccines cause cancer, claiming there to be mountains of evidence yet not providing any references themselves. That's not "high quality criticism" but dull and uninformed nonsense.

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Re: mRNA vaccines: let's eradicate herpes, cure cancer, and be sick a whole lot less

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Post by 18638 »

eropple wrote: post #14
exabrial wrote: post #7

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This is a rewriting of history. Politically extreme oppositional defiant disorder and a concerted effort to sow active disinformation are the roots of the tree that bore that fruit, not vaccine mandates . Mandates followed the oppositional defiance, not the other way 'round. If you insist on blame--and I can get behind that to some degree--ravening shitheads with political (or, I guess, perhaps mere social-media view…

This reads like something Hitler would say: "and we will make it happen if you lack the civic culture to do so yourself"
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