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Kagi and Wolfram

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Re: Kagi and Wolfram

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Why am I starting to see a lot of promotional statements within HN? Are there any bot or some army of manual labor around?

Kagi just happens to be pretty popular here, it's how I found out about it.

Re: Kagi and Wolfram

#72

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There should be some doc on the English syntax. I wonder if WA lets you fall back to the proper Mathematica representation. Something like the below but in reverse as WA typically does the free form by default I think. https://wolfram.com/mathematica/new-in-8/free-form-linguisti...

You can input Mathematica (ahem, Wolfram Language). I suppose yet another use for LLMs: better translation of natural language input into structured Wolfram calculations. Unsurprisingly, they're already advertising "Wolfram GPT" and have added LLMSynthesize[] etc. to Mathematica.

I assume the translation is a bit more rigorous than running through an LLM.

Re: Kagi and Wolfram

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post #33

Why am I starting to see a lot of promotional statements within HN? Are there any bot or some army of manual labor around?

Kagi just happens to be pretty popular here, it's how I found out about it.

I have tried Kagi and I don't find anything magical. And I see a lot of testaments saying how good Kagi is, and most of them aren't in any specific comparison.

Re: Kagi and Wolfram

#76
> welcome Stephen Wolfram to Kagi’s board of advisors

This is interesting. I guess we will soon read a longwinded post about it from the first person perspective.

Re: Kagi and Wolfram

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post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Kagi just happens to be pretty popular here, it's how I found out about it.

I have tried Kagi and I don't find anything magical. And I see a lot of testaments saying how good Kagi is, and most of them aren't in any specific comparison.

For me just the ability to filter/downrank certain domains and the ability to rewrite urls (universally, without having a separate plugin setup on mobile devices) is a very specific example of what I like.

Makes it easy to ensure that I'm always on old reddit and wikipedia with the better (older :p) layout. Also allowed me to clean up a lot of the results that I knew were from low quality domains, such as getting rid of pinterest since results from it almost never led to anything useful.

I also enjoy the lenses, I hated how the Google results for recipes tended to only make already frustrating recipe sites even more frustrating to dig through. The small web lens is also very nice for when I'm already searching for a niche topic.

Besides that, I also reflect the vague description of the search results seeming to be better.

And of course on top of that, there's the lack of tracking and putting my money where my mouth is regarding preferring to pay for a good privacy preserving service.

Re: Kagi and Wolfram

#78
post #16

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Kagi does unit and currency conversion.

It doesn't work that way in the actual search results: https://kagi.com/search?q=iphone+case+%2450..%2460 All my results are in dollars. And they're not in range.

Did you try quick answers? It works fine for your query. You just need to specify the currency. https://imgbly.com/ib/SfcLVHFMmV

Re: Kagi and Wolfram

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post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Kagi just happens to be pretty popular here, it's how I found out about it.

I have tried Kagi and I don't find anything magical. And I see a lot of testaments saying how good Kagi is, and most of them aren't in any specific comparison.

What exactly are you looking for in a testimonial? Do you want a side-by-side comparison of results or something?

My experience has been that Kagi's customizations are the key selling point, allowing you to block and bump domains to meet your needs:

* I have Wikipedia pinned, so if there's a Wikipedia article it's always the top result, whereas Google has lately started downweighting Wikipedia much of the time (as a simple example see COVID-19).

* I have Pinterest blocked entirely, so I never see results from them. As an example, try "living room refurbishment ideas".

* I have MDN upweighted, so it tends to rank higher than random people's blog posts for web dev queries.

Re: Kagi and Wolfram

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I love using WA as a calculator since it's so good at handling units. Silly example: I just tried "average distance to moon/Eiffel Tower height" in Kagi and got "= about 1.167 million" (powered by WA).

I just tried some time math and it got it wrong

3:38 - 0:10 = 8 hours and 32 minutes

I'm guessing it was trying to convert it to times of day instead of 3 minutes 38 seconds.

Interestingly if I click the quick answer button it gives 3:48 as a result.

Google - doesn't even try.

WA directly also had to nudge it to use it as a unit instead of a time of day.

Still some work to do here it seems!

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