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New 13- and 15‑inch MacBook Air with M3 chip

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Re: New 13- and 15‑inch MacBook Air with M3 chip

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Post by silverlake »

Keyframe wrote: post #63

Outside of pricing, why would one buy Air vs Pro these days? I've had OG Air back in the day and tapered form factor was great. I recently was in an Apple store and looked at pro and airs.. they felt same, and also air seemed heavy (compared to ye olde tapered one). Now with Pro at 14" and Air pushing to 15".. why?

The weight of the 13" Air vs 15" Air vs 14" Pro is 2.7 > 3.3 > 3.4 lbs. For developers who do development on remote machines, weight and form factor are more important. I would pay top dollar for a 12" Macbook with M processor because I do my focused editing on a big screen. Other people use their laptop for everything so a 15" screen is preferred. Also, different strokes for different folks.

Re: New 13- and 15‑inch MacBook Air with M3 chip

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Post by sys_64738 »

ofrzeta wrote: post #66
snizovtsev wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

$999 is for soldered 8GB/256GB crap. Add $400 for 16GB/512GB models.

It's not crap, though. I am using the exact config with an M1 and it's really quite usable, even for development. Also I have hundreds of tabs open. You can even watch movies because the speakers are so good - opposed to any PC laptop I ever owned.

It might be usable but the cost difference of 8/256 and 16/512 is negligible. But Apple wants to price gouge you if you want the latter. Computing hardware was always about providing the maximum upfront to give headroom in the future.

Re: New 13- and 15‑inch MacBook Air with M3 chip

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Post by blah-yeah »

I love my m2 mbp 14"

Frankly, Apple is an amazing organization and I am extremely thankful that they've empowered product designers to bring us these amazing creations.

Apple is one reason that I love existing in this era. Sure, there are others. But having Apple... enables me to bring a laptop + a backup battery (anker 737) practically anywhere and work all day without needing a direct electricity connection.

Laptop + Phone + external battery packs = work all day

The light weight, stay-cool-ness ... makes it so easy to work from.

I love you Apple. So glad to not have to use Windows. Sure, Linux desktops distros are decent (despite bugs), but Apple "just works".

Re: New 13- and 15‑inch MacBook Air with M3 chip

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Post by kjkjadksj »

ketzo wrote: post #49

The degree to which Apple has kinda just “won” laptops is nuts to me. $999 for an 13-inch M2 Air is just bonkers. You can easily pay $1500, even $2000 for Windows laptops that are hotter, heavier, AND slower.

Depending on your use cases the software environment for the mac has never been worse right as the hardware has gotten so powerful and cool running. Major mac devs have totally abandoned the platform in recent years. Apple needs to rebuild good faith among developers especially game developers, or at the very least get ahead of the software drain and put and end to what factors have been causing it.

Re: New 13- and 15‑inch MacBook Air with M3 chip

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Post by sys_64738 »

Keyframe wrote: post #63

Outside of pricing, why would one buy Air vs Pro these days? I've had OG Air back in the day and tapered form factor was great. I recently was in an Apple store and looked at pro and airs.. they felt same, and also air seemed heavy (compared to ye olde tapered one). Now with Pro at 14" and Air pushing to 15".. why?

Air has no fan which means no moving parts and no noise.

Re: New 13- and 15‑inch MacBook Air with M3 chip

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Post by kjkjadksj »

silverlake wrote: post #71
Keyframe wrote: post #63

Outside of pricing, why would one buy Air vs Pro these days? I've had OG Air back in the day and tapered form factor was great. I recently was in an Apple store and looked at pro and airs.. they felt same, and also air seemed heavy (compared to ye olde tapered one). Now with Pro at 14" and Air pushing to 15".. why?

The weight of the 13" Air vs 15" Air vs 14" Pro is 2.7 > 3.3 > 3.4 lbs. For developers who do development on remote machines, weight and form factor are more important. I would pay top dollar for a 12" Macbook with M processor because I do my focused editing on a big screen. Other people use their laptop for everything so a 15" screen is preferred. Also, different strokes for different folks.

The 14 inch is already so light imo its probably worth it to splurge just to get things like the non gimped screen

Re: New 13- and 15‑inch MacBook Air with M3 chip

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Post by nicole_express »

keiferski wrote: post #56

Kind of disappointing that they seem to have discontinued the 11” model. I bought one 5 or 6 years ago and it’s still working fine. Compared to the 13” and 15” models, it feels so much more portable and lightweight.

Agreed here. Though the bezels have been reduced quite a bit, a similarly bezel-reduced 11" would be amazingly compact and useful in my book.

Re: New 13- and 15‑inch MacBook Air with M3 chip

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Post by kjkjadksj »

brigadier132 wrote: post #67
lancesells wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm on my first M1 but even with intel I got 5 to 6 years out of the Macbook Air.

I'm compiling a lot of code, my hands got sweaty because of how hot the intel macbooks got.

External keyboard and a laptop stand would have helped.

Re: New 13- and 15‑inch MacBook Air with M3 chip

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Post by sys_64738 »

microtonal wrote: post #33
Andrew_nenakhov wrote: post #30

For anyone having issues with only one external display at once, DisplayLink adapters work very well, allowing you to connect much more displays if you need them.

It comes with a bunch of downsides though. It is lossy, requires a third-party driver (and you become dependent on them to provide timely updates for new macOS releases), protected content from iTunes and other players is not visible on the laptop display when DisplayLink adapters are connected, a bunch of HiDPI resolutions are missing on Apple Silicon Macs, etc. USB-C Alt-Mode and Thunderbolt always trump DisplayLin…

DisplayLink can get an LCD to re-engage from sleep which Apple's built in ports often can't. Try switching off your Dell LCD attached directly to an M2 Mini.
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