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Dune: Part Two Is the Best Sci-Fi Film of the Decade

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Re: Dune: Part Two Is the Best Sci-Fi Film of the Decade

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"of the Decade"? Author using that phrase again, and they're serious about writing off the next 6 years? Will see how that ages. Would have been safe to say "of the last ten years" no?

I think saying "of the decade" but meaning "of the [past] decade" where decade means "a period of ten years" is pretty reasonable

Quibbling with that sort of misses the point, no?

Re: Dune: Part Two Is the Best Sci-Fi Film of the Decade

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> Even better than the first film The first part left me quite underwhelmed, tbh. Maybe I had too high expectations given the director, but while the visuals are amazing, the characterization of some characters (like lady Jessica or Thufir Hawat) are very far from how the books depicts them, and I don't think is an interpretation thing. I understand that Dune is too big of a masterpiece for a simple 2 part movie (it…

> The first part left me quite underwhelmed The books are chock full of the various character's internal dialog, and when you make the choice to leave that aspect out, there is quite a bit of richness missing. This version went the "show, don't tell" route. Visually, its amazing, but so much additional information from the book to help you understand the characters, the groups they belong to, and their motivations wa…

I don't know why so many people hate the whispery Lynch Dune voiceovers. I think they work great to convey both extra content and the mysterious, intrigue-laden mood of the book.

Re: Dune: Part Two Is the Best Sci-Fi Film of the Decade

#74
Related: here is last night's Fresh Air interview with Dune director Denis Villeneuve. It is 37 mins long. I listened to it on my drive home. It is a good interview.

NPR Fresh Air: "Storyboarding 'Dune' since he was 13, Denis Villeneuve is 'still pinching' himself"

https://www.npr.org/2024/02/28/1234472127/dune-denis-villene...

Re: Dune: Part Two Is the Best Sci-Fi Film of the Decade

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I would like to see the average age of people who prefer the new Dune movie to the old David Lynch one. Are you all Millennials and younger?

I'm 44 and I think Lynch'n Dune is better, because it has soul . The first movie was very sterile and lifeless. I commented about it here a while ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38980303

My brother from another mother! 43 here, maybe there's something to it.

Re: Dune: Part Two Is the Best Sci-Fi Film of the Decade

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The first was okay. I was disappointed, I really like villenueve's other work. But it was just kinda stale.

Well, Dune is kinda stale. It's certainly not for everyone, but I thought he did an amazing job of brining the books to life.

> Well, Dune is kinda stale.

Yeah, I have to concur with that take. When I read Dune, I just didn't find it that interesting.

It rarely felt like the characters had agency--a lot of plot tokens were collected and redeemed to move the story forward (whoops, story needs to move--time for a new, previously unmentioned superpower). And quite often the characters were just cartoonishly dumb or smart or good or evil.

As you said, it's certainly not for everyone. I suspect it's more a "product of its time".

Re: Dune: Part Two Is the Best Sci-Fi Film of the Decade

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I’ve noticed that the larger the scale and budget a movies get, the more vacate the film is. A small scale film like The Social Network is much bigger to me than Dune 2 which I recently saw through a friend working in the film industry. Dune 2 is one of the largest scale films ever made but its thoughts and ideas are equally small in the other direction. It’s valid to be mesmerized by the technical feat and the sheer scale of it but it’s empty calories.

Re: Dune: Part Two Is the Best Sci-Fi Film of the Decade

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I was extremely impressed by and thoroughly enjoyed "part one". However I think Blade Runner 2049 was better. [1] I'm excited to see "part two". [1] Stephen A Smith Hot Take: I actually think BR:2049 was better than the original - and I am a true devotee of the original.

I think blade runner 2049 could be considered a superior film if you edited out most of Jared Leto’s character.

Re: Dune: Part Two Is the Best Sci-Fi Film of the Decade

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never heard about this before! thanks for the tip will check this out

Agreed that the SciFi channel miniseries of Dune is top notch. There’s also a Children of Dune miniseries with the same cast. Catch is when I wanted to watch it last these couldn’t be streamed anywhere legally. So I bought them on dvd from fleabay.

Children of Dune was on the same level. Both were, by far, the pinnacle of Sci-fi (Syfy) channel during their glory days. Stargate is cool, Farscape is too, BSG is my all time favorite, but this - this was BSG before they had the budget. This enabled them to do BSG. They knocked it out of the park. Twice.

Re: Dune: Part Two Is the Best Sci-Fi Film of the Decade

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It seems that reviewers like this are still on the Paul-as-hero boat. It's easy to take the first film and even the book that way, despite the premonitions of future destruction and disaster that exist in both, and I assume part 2 is going to largely continue the same way. But I really hope Villeneuve has the guts to hold true to Herbert's overall message about "heroes", where after defeating the evil Harkonnens and the bad old Emperor, Paul basically turns to the Fremen and says, "Ok, warm up the planet sterilizer weapons, the jihad begins now."

Capturing the sense of inevitability that Paul feels as his prescience leads him, one obvious next step at a time, to the killing of billions and establishment of himself as galactic despot, that's a hard thing in film.

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