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Re: Mistral Large

#71

Pricing doesn't seem to be a topic of interest on Mistral's public pages. I feel I'm missing the point somehow, because "what does it cost" was my first question.

Agree, even when I logged in into api dashboard, I needed to first leave my billing data to see pricing...

Re: Mistral Large

#72

> Au Large Does anyone have an idea what does "Au" stand for here? Translating "au" to French gives "at", but I'm not sure whether this is what it's supposed to mean. And "Au" doesn't seem to be used anywhere else in the article.

"Au large" means "off the coast"/"at sea" in french. Slightly poetic and retro, and symbolizes their entrance in the big league of LLMs.

Re: Mistral Large

#73

> Au Large Does anyone have an idea what does "Au" stand for here? Translating "au" to French gives "at", but I'm not sure whether this is what it's supposed to mean. And "Au" doesn't seem to be used anywhere else in the article.

Au large would translate as "at sea". My interpretation is that it's a pun between the name of the model and the fact that the "ship" they built is now sailing.

Re: Mistral Large

#74
Im not sure if anyone cares about my opinion, but I think its worth mentioning that of all the models, Mixtral is IMO the best, and I do not know what Id do without it.

Fantastic news, thank you.

Re: Mistral Large

#75

> Au Large Does anyone have an idea what does "Au" stand for here? Translating "au" to French gives "at", but I'm not sure whether this is what it's supposed to mean. And "Au" doesn't seem to be used anywhere else in the article.

'Au large' means 'At sea'. Refers to them launching it, or maybe to its availability 'on the cloud'.

Re: Mistral Large

#76
post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is this a problem? So many companies have been founded around premium versions of open-source products. It's good that they've even given us as much as they have. They have to make the economics work somehow.

It's not a problem from a moral perspective or anything - we all know these models are very expensive to create. However, from a marketing perspective - think of who the users of an open model are. They're people who, for one reason or another, don't want to use OpenAI's APIs. When selling a hosted API to a group predominantly comprised of people who reject hosted APIs - you've got to expect some push back.

Is this true? I know a whole lot of people that use and fine tune Mistral / variants and they all use OpenAI too. (For other projects or for ChatGPT)

From my perspective, I want to use the best model. But maybe as models improve and for certain use cases that will start to change. If I work on a project that has certain parts that are fulfilled by Mistral and can reduce cost, that's cool.

I'm surprised how expensive this model is compared to GPT-4. Only ~20% cheaper

Re: Mistral Large

#77
Very nice! I know they've already done a lot, but I would've liked some language in there re-affirming a commitment to contributing to the open source community. I had thought that was a major part of their brand.

I've been staying tuned[0] since the miqu[1] debacle thinking that more open weights were on the horizon. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

[0]: https://twitter.com/arthurmensch/status/1752737462663684344 [1]: https://huggingface.co/miqudev/miqu-1-70b/discussions/10

Re: Mistral Large

#78
post #44

Interesting, I didn’t know they had le chat. I’ve been wanting a chatgpt competitor with mistral. Also love the fact they put “le” in front of their products

Cute, but "le chat" literally means "the cat". I presume most young Francophones who are likely to actually use Mistral will pronounce it in Franglais as "le tchatte".

They also used the phrase "La Plateforme" so it seems likely they may be going for the english word "chat". Though I haven't tried 'le chat' so idk if they have a cat mascot there or something.

Re: Mistral Large

#79
post #3

There is not a lot of advantage to releasing this on Azure where you are directly competing with GPT-4, which will beat you on most tasks.

Say that you are building a b2b product that uses LLMs for whatever. A common question that users will ask is if their data is safe and who else has access. Everyone is afraid or AI training on their data. Saying that Microsoft is the only one that touches your customer’s data is an important part of your sales pitch. No one outside of tech knows who mistral is.

Re: Mistral Large

#80
post #66

Changelog is also updated: [1] Feb. 26, 2024 API endpoints: We renamed 3 API endpoints and added 2 model endpoints. open-mistral-7b (aka mistral-tiny-2312): renamed from mistral-tiny. The endpoint mistral-tiny will be deprecated in three months. open-mixtral-8x7B (aka mistral-small-2312): renamed from mistral-small. The endpoint mistral-small will be deprecated in three months. mistral-small-latest (aka mistral-small…

I know marketing folks prefer poetic names, but I wish we had consistent naming like v1.0, 2.0 etc, instead of renaming your product line every year like Apple and Xbox does. Confusing and opaque.
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