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Re: The Disappointing Tea.xyz

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Post by mikemcquaid »

novoreorx wrote: post #69
mikemcquaid wrote: post #48

Hi, as it’s come up a few times in the comments: Tea completely unrelated to Homebrew other than happening to have the same creator. Homebrew has zero connection to anything related to Tea and Max hasn’t been involved with Homebrew for the best part of a decade. Mike McQuaid, Homebrew Project Leader and Homebrew maintainer for the last 15 years.

Hi Mike, Thank you for the clarification. To avoid future confusion, could you please suggest that the author of Tea removes the following information from their website? > Led by the creator of Homebrew Max Howell, tea is Homebrew’s spiritual successor.

That's up to the community to ask, not me. It's not up to me what Max or Tea says on the internet, sorry.

It's worth noting the opposite direction: generally when an open-source project considers another to succeed it, it is noted on their homepage/GitHub repository. We (Homebrew) do not state Tea is a successor because, from our perspective, it is not.

Re: The Disappointing Tea.xyz

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Post by L3viathan »

floren wrote: post #64

> So much like Keybase got spammed with an influx of garbage users when they announced their Stellar token - GitHub is getting an influx of garbage users taking time and energy from me and others for this tea stuff. Kinda off-topic but when this happened it was the beginning of the end for my use of Keybase. Stopped using it entirely after the Zoom acquisition, and I'd used their chat very heavily early on -- but tru…

Likewise. I _did_ sell those stellar tokens they gave to (longtime?) users for about 50 bucks though, before deleting my account.

Re: The Disappointing Tea.xyz

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Post by pavel_lishin »

aChattuio wrote: post #66
pavel_lishin wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What differentiates a "fake" NFT from a "real" one?

The real nft is on the right ledger and can be resold or if it has something attached to it, it can be redeemed.

What differentiates the "right" ledger from the "wrong" one?

Re: The Disappointing Tea.xyz

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Post by rchaud »

charcircuit wrote: post #42
aChattuio wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And it doesn't even solve the trust problem for anything off chain. And even if it would than the question of which chain is the right one comes up. Did you know there are fake nfts and you hardly can see which ones are real? You literally need an initial trust anchor like a project website with https to learn about it. What a wonderful irony.

Counterfeits exist in real life too, bit crypto has the benefit that you can actually prove who created something where in real life a good counterfeit could remain undetected.

In real life, counterfeiting is dealt with at multiple levels: legal, communal, technological. Laws are written to deter the act with punitive measures. Communities share information about how to spot counterfeits. Technology is used to make the act of copying harder.

The folly of NFTs, energy footprint aside, is thinking that a well-written smart contract is all that's needed to stop counterfeits.

Re: The Disappointing Tea.xyz

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Post by avgcorrection »

mikemcquaid wrote: post #44
jxi wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If anything this makes me seriously rethink my use of homebrew. I already had security-related concerns around it, but the fact that he launched this weird crypto thing that's going to cause a lot of spam on GitHub is pushing me even further away.

It’s completely unrelated to Homebrew. We have zero connection to anything related to Tea and Max hasn’t been involved with Homebrew for the best part of a decade. Mike McQuaid, Homebrew Project Leader and Homebrew maintainer for the last 15 years.

OK Great Leader. People are noting that the “Homebrew guy” is behind two back-to-back stupid ideas (that package thing and this). You can’t deny that he was involved with Homebrew and that’s all that’s being said.

The OSS CV thing can be a double-edged sword for all involved parties.

Re: The Disappointing Tea.xyz

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Post by chx »

morgante wrote: post #32

Cryptocurrency has basically completely inverted the trust issue it's meant to solve (at least for many developers). In theory, a decentralized ledger of project contributions / owners is a good idea for distributing sponsorship dollars without a middleman controlling things. In practice, the brand of crypto has gotten so bad that developers are far more likely to trust centralized mechanisms like GitHub's funding.ya…

This is bullshit.

Let's repeat the basic fact: every crypto which uses a transaction fee is inherently a scam because it's a negative sum game. Everything else is bait to get you involved in the scam. There's nothing else.

Re: The Disappointing Tea.xyz

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Post by [deleted] »

avgcorrection wrote: post #75
mikemcquaid wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s completely unrelated to Homebrew. We have zero connection to anything related to Tea and Max hasn’t been involved with Homebrew for the best part of a decade. Mike McQuaid, Homebrew Project Leader and Homebrew maintainer for the last 15 years.

OK Great Leader. People are noting that the “Homebrew guy” is behind two back-to-back stupid ideas (that package thing and this). You can’t deny that he was involved with Homebrew and that’s all that’s being said. The OSS CV thing can be a double-edged sword for all involved parties.

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Re: The Disappointing Tea.xyz

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Post by ptx »

frizlab wrote: post #8
joeyh wrote: post #5

Tea is from the same person who was using AI generated descriptions in their package manager the other day. Probably best to put your old grift to bed before starting your new one?

Ironically it’s also the same guy who did Homebrew! pkgx looks great on paper (did not try), but why oh why does Max want to put crypto and AI everywhere?

Some of the supposed selling points on the pkgx the website are that they "build new releases almost immediately" and "add everything that people want without qualms", which seems to imply pretty lax quality control. Given that they apparently consider AI-generated garbage appropriate in package descriptions and issue comments, I would be even more wary. Is anyone checking that packages don't include malware?

Re: The Disappointing Tea.xyz

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Post by ptx »

lucideer wrote: post #35
shepherdjerred wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you kidding? I love Homebrew. I install it on my Linux devices too. It allows me to easily install up-to-date versions of just about any software I care about.

You're a user - I'm purely referring to contributors. It's clearly gained popularity for good reasons - it's an API that is very user-oriented, with reasonably good UX for most people. The downsides are mainly related to issues users don't see (i.e. security).

What are some of the security issues? (Just curious. I don't use Homebrew.)

Re: The Disappointing Tea.xyz

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Post by acdha »

avgcorrection wrote: post #75
mikemcquaid wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s completely unrelated to Homebrew. We have zero connection to anything related to Tea and Max hasn’t been involved with Homebrew for the best part of a decade. Mike McQuaid, Homebrew Project Leader and Homebrew maintainer for the last 15 years.

OK Great Leader. People are noting that the “Homebrew guy” is behind two back-to-back stupid ideas (that package thing and this). You can’t deny that he was involved with Homebrew and that’s all that’s being said. The OSS CV thing can be a double-edged sword for all involved parties.

> You can’t deny that he was involved with Homebrew and that’s all that’s being said.

Unfortunately, this isn’t true. The comment you’re replying to was in response to someone saying they’d reconsider using Homebrew now over this, and that sentiment has been common in social media.

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