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AI 'dream girls' are coming for porn stars' jobs

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Re: AI 'dream girls' are coming for porn stars' jobs

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Post by pessimizer »

ethagknight wrote: post #60
x86x87 wrote: post #53

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The range or the spectrum is there and implied for anything in life. The question is: if you take porn free sexual behavior and you overlap watching porn on top of it does the resulting spectrum differ? How do you control the effect porn has on us vs the effect of all the other things we are, as a society, exposed to? For me porn does not reframe expectations. You still end up fucking and you still end up having to t…

You will not acknowledge, in your casestudy of one, that you have not been at all impacted by pornography? In any form or fashion?

Is this argument by pleading?

Re: AI 'dream girls' are coming for porn stars' jobs

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Post by pessimizer »

x86x87 wrote: post #41
jkic47 wrote: post #38

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There is no point arguing with people unwilling to engage because their minds are made up...

I agree. No point in arguing with you. You start from a premise and after that that's it.

You can't require that people accept that you're right as a precondition for arguing with them. If you want to argue that porn perverts sexuality, you can't demand that your opponent acknowledge that their sexuality has been perverted by porn. You wouldn't take that structure seriously in any other context.

Re: AI 'dream girls' are coming for porn stars' jobs

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Post by pessimizer »

bko wrote: post #51
add-sub-mul-div wrote: post #34

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Well the problem there is that it's not just love but also office labor that AI threatens to raid for the benefit of the top 1%.

Technology could have brought down labor when it comes to education and health care. Yet these keep growing in price and administrators are added. So maybe in the future we're all just doing admin jobs

Education and health care require people, and technology has continually failed at replacing people in those sectors. If tech could replace labor in education, we would have seen it during covid. Technology also still can't pull out stitches or change a bedpan.

Re: AI 'dream girls' are coming for porn stars' jobs

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Post by ethagknight »

pessimizer wrote: post #71
ethagknight wrote: post #60

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You will not acknowledge, in your casestudy of one, that you have not been at all impacted by pornography? In any form or fashion?

Is this argument by pleading?

I just find it bizarre that some people are hellbent on denying that pornography has any adverse effects.

In this case, the argument reduced down to “well, not for me” which is likely a form of denial

Re: AI 'dream girls' are coming for porn stars' jobs

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Post by jkic47 »

x86x87 wrote: post #57
jkic47 wrote: post #39

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Simple. While not all activities depicted in porn are damaging to all people, some activities can be damaging some people. Doesn't have to be black or white. Make sense?

Can you find one example of an activity (outside porn) that is beneficial to all people?

Smiling, for one? :-)

Re: AI 'dream girls' are coming for porn stars' jobs

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Post by x86x87 »

ethagknight wrote: post #74
pessimizer wrote: post #71

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Is this argument by pleading?

I just find it bizarre that some people are hellbent on denying that pornography has any adverse effects. In this case, the argument reduced down to “well, not for me” which is likely a form of denial

Find me one thing that has zero effects on you. Go ahead! I'll wait.

Re: AI 'dream girls' are coming for porn stars' jobs

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Post by x86x87 »

jkic47 wrote: post #75
x86x87 wrote: post #57

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Can you find one example of an activity (outside porn) that is beneficial to all people?

Smiling, for one? :-)

nope. i can find cases where smiling is not beneficial. Eg: Lookup Angelman syndrome and tell me again how smiling is beneficial to parents that have a kid with this disease.

What else do you have?

Re: AI 'dream girls' are coming for porn stars' jobs

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Post by x86x87 »

acdha wrote: post #69
x86x87 wrote: post #66

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you know, the same kind of discourse used to be applied around videogames. The claim was that they will turn kids into murderers. In reality: video games make you smarter and may even contribute to kids being more social. It's the perpetual protestant bullshit that has plagued the society in US for hundreds of years now. God forbid we see a breast or are exposed to a dick or mention the possibility of inserting somet…

There’s a key difference: nobody thinks playing a game is practicing for a real career as a space marine or heroic paladin. There’s a ton of research published about how teenagers and young adults do pick up unrealistic or even harmful ideas from porn because, unlike almost all games, it is depicting a part of life they will actually practice. Worse, various sex negative cultural beliefs mean that there are a ton of…

Well. Nobody used to believe this. If you subscribe to the idea that porn alters your perception of reality I don't see why you can extend it to: videogames alter your perception of reality.

Re: AI 'dream girls' are coming for porn stars' jobs

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Post by x86x87 »

pessimizer wrote: post #72
x86x87 wrote: post #41

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I agree. No point in arguing with you. You start from a premise and after that that's it.

You can't require that people accept that you're right as a precondition for arguing with them. If you want to argue that porn perverts sexuality, you can't demand that your opponent acknowledge that their sexuality has been perverted by porn. You wouldn't take that structure seriously in any other context.

Apparently they can. :) Life doesn't work this way though.

Re: AI 'dream girls' are coming for porn stars' jobs

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Post by ethagknight »

x86x87 wrote: post #76
ethagknight wrote: post #74

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I just find it bizarre that some people are hellbent on denying that pornography has any adverse effects. In this case, the argument reduced down to “well, not for me” which is likely a form of denial

Find me one thing that has zero effects on you. Go ahead! I'll wait.

Q.E.D.
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