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Re: Coding in Vision Pro

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Post by drcode »

larrysalibra wrote: post #8
shakow wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is the resolution? I never tried a Vision Pro yet, but that was my main gripe with my Rift. Indeed, IME, the ‶real world″ size of the windows is nothing, it's their angular resolution that is a make or break.

It ranges from okay to not that bad. It’s not as good as the “retina” screens in Apple’s other products. I can definitely see pixels on the device if I’m wearing contacts unlike what most of the early reviewers claimed. But it’s not so bad as to be unusable and you don’t really notice them in most contexts - the main place I notice pixels is using it as a screen for macOS. VisionOS apps are rendered very large by def…

I don't know, if I need to use my macOS laptop, it sounds a lot easier to just use my laptop, instead of using a helmet and then doing the connection dance to get a single ok-ish screen anyway

Re: Coding in Vision Pro

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Post by somishere »

hombre_fatal wrote: post #56
somishere wrote: post #43

> Yet, it is fake, as I am sitting on our top floor, a barely furnished room full of items belonging to a family house with two young kids Define dystopia.

Meh, it's not like everyone has been working from the beach or lakeside up until now. I'd wager it's less dystopian than your current setup staring at the wall of your home or office, maybe with a window to a view of nothing in an office you're forced to drive to.

"I guess that depends on what your definition of the word is is" ;)

Re: Coding in Vision Pro

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Post by tpmoney »

somishere wrote: post #43

> Yet, it is fake, as I am sitting on our top floor, a barely furnished room full of items belonging to a family house with two young kids Define dystopia.

I can't think of any version of dystopia that would be defined by "working your comfortable office job from your multi-story family home while experimenting with a multi thousand dollar piece of high tech equipment which can provide virtual experiences the likes of which was mere science fiction just two decades earlier purchased with your own money the month it was released to the public" Certainly no more dystopic than the very idea of remote work in general.

Re: Coding in Vision Pro

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Post by drcode »

willemlaurentz wrote: post #55
zyklonix wrote: post #35

Any idea how the author was able to have multiple desktop screens? What app is he using for this? I thought it only allowed you to mirror one screen per Mac and from my experience it is quite laggy.

I use the iPad Blink Shell app, it can have multiple windows and renders using the VisionOS UI, making it sharper than mirroring a Mac's display. It helps that I have optimised a great part of my workflow due to me liking tablets. Like others have said, AVP is like strapping an iPad on your head - I happen to like my iPad, too.

Does the "multiple window" support of Blink work seamlessly on the helmet?

Re: Coding in Vision Pro

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Post by LegitShady »

jm20 wrote: post #10

I tried to use the Vision Pro for work, and I'm not sure if it was just my eyes or what, but looking at code inside of that thing was just...exhausting. When I took it off, I looked at my regular monitors with a newfound love. I'd love for this thing to reach it's full potential as this 'work from a mountaintop, but really your garage' device, but I feel like until the resolution gets to the same as existing monitors…

I think its a PWM issue.

Re: Coding in Vision Pro

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Post by rrdharan »

LegitShady wrote: post #75
jm20 wrote: post #10

I tried to use the Vision Pro for work, and I'm not sure if it was just my eyes or what, but looking at code inside of that thing was just...exhausting. When I took it off, I looked at my regular monitors with a newfound love. I'd love for this thing to reach it's full potential as this 'work from a mountaintop, but really your garage' device, but I feel like until the resolution gets to the same as existing monitors…

I think its a PWM issue.

Since I didn’t know the acronym.. “Pulse Width Modulation”:

https://appleinsider.com/inside/apple-vision-pro/tips/why-ap...

Re: Coding in Vision Pro

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Post by steveBK123 »

judge2020 wrote: post #67
lucb1e wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> not suitable for even a few minutes of use Because of lag, or why? Many people work on remote desktop all day long, and I spend my fair share of time in SSH sessions as well. It's not like it improves the experience compared to working locally, but for me it works fine so long as you're within a few hundred kilometers without much jitter. On the VR, the screen should move as you move your head because that position…

You misunderstood, the video passthrough of your surroundings is not good enough. Using the macOS virtual display is fine, there is some noticeable streaming latency, maybe 30ms (that would be solved if it could just take DP over USB-C or Thunderbolt in) but it's suitable for long term use.

Not just giving a display port of some sort seems like such a mistake given that there's already the battery cord/pack and that the virtual display latency is so bad.

Re: Coding in Vision Pro

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Post by timetraveller26 »

People spending 3.5K to code is peak capitalism.

Yes, I am exaggerating a little bit, but frankly coding like this is kinda silly, you don't need this headset to fancy manipulate text presentation when the really important thing, the abstractions, are in your brain.

Re: Coding in Vision Pro

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Post by cromka »

iamjake648 wrote: post #38
jm20 wrote: post #10

I tried to use the Vision Pro for work, and I'm not sure if it was just my eyes or what, but looking at code inside of that thing was just...exhausting. When I took it off, I looked at my regular monitors with a newfound love. I'd love for this thing to reach it's full potential as this 'work from a mountaintop, but really your garage' device, but I feel like until the resolution gets to the same as existing monitors…

I returned mine today after attempting to use it for work for a few hours at a time over the last week. I felt the same eye strain with my Mac as a mirrored display. Zoom calls were cool, but nobody could take the Persona seriously. After a few days the eye strain seemed to get worse and worse, until yesterday it give me such a bad headache I decided that was enough.

> Zoom calls were cool, but nobody could take the Persona seriously.

This is going to be another of their socially awkward gimmicks like Memojis they will double down until they inevitably fail.

I really feel like Apple actually just doesn’t feel it and every time they’re pushing their weird geeky ideas onto their users they loose a bit of coolness factor. And if kids decide Apple got too cringe, while someone else manages to use that to spin their momentum (think e.g. Nokia respawning riding the 90s sentiment wave), they may actually start to seriously struggle.

Re: Coding in Vision Pro

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Post by zyklonix »

willemlaurentz wrote: post #55
zyklonix wrote: post #35

Any idea how the author was able to have multiple desktop screens? What app is he using for this? I thought it only allowed you to mirror one screen per Mac and from my experience it is quite laggy.

I use the iPad Blink Shell app, it can have multiple windows and renders using the VisionOS UI, making it sharper than mirroring a Mac's display. It helps that I have optimised a great part of my workflow due to me liking tablets. Like others have said, AVP is like strapping an iPad on your head - I happen to like my iPad, too.

That's great! It even supports VS Code. How did you manage to use the mouse? My AVP refuses to pair with a bluetooth mouse.
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