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Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by mjgeddes »

codekaze wrote: post #64

Just played with Gemini Ultra for like 10-15 mins, and right off the bat, it made mistakes I've never seen GPT-4 do. To give you an example, I asked Gemini Ultra how to set up a real-time system for a TikTok-like feed that matches card difficulty with user ability. It correctly mentioned "Item Response Theory (IRT)", which was a good start. But when I followed up asking how to implement a real-time IRT system, it sud…

Yeah, I noticed with 'Gemini Pro' , it didn't seem to be able to remember much about earlier outputs in the conversation (apparently little to no context window), which obviously drastically dumbs it down.

I was starting to get OK results with 'Pro', but I had to use special prompting tricks.

Tried 'Advanced' (Ultra), seems only marginally better so far.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by bdd8f1df777b »

TechRemarker wrote: post #49

"Sorry, Gemini Advanced isn't available for you". Why are Google paying customers always the last to get everything. Always thought that should be reversed. Especially for one person users who use it for the customer domain and not running a fortune 500 company. So frustrating. Google Home is still a mess where if one if Google Work and the rest of the family is not won't work after all these years. So frustrating.

Because the legality for the paying customers is much more complex to navigate.

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Post by _puk »

r2binx wrote: post #58
_puk wrote: post #18

edit Sadly not! Sounds like you can theoretically do the old Xbox game pass trick of loading up Gold and then upgrading. £25 for an annual standard plan, and then upgrade to Ultra. First 2 months free, so potentially 14 months for £25 (then £18.99 a month after). No idea if this works in practice! "If you upgrade, your plan will be active immediately, and the remaining time on your current plan will be credited towar…

Thanks for the tip but it doesn't seem to work that way. It looks like they convert your subscription value into however many days it could get at this new pricing. For instance I just did the annual upgrade for my plan (29.99€/y) and they credit me 40 additional days if I upgraded the plan (21.99€/m).

Was worth a shot!

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Post by simion314 »

The level of stupidity caused by corporate censorship is extreme in Bard, I ask it(medium one) to generate a few paragraphs of content and it did it. Then I ask it to revise the text and fix some stuff and it refused the task because of plagiarism concern, no amount of logic could make the stupid AI understand that we "own" the f text we created just now and we can edit it.

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Post by smusamashah »

sidcool wrote: post #46

I subscribed for it. But then it redirects to https://gemini.google.com/ which throws 404. When I went to https://bard.google.com it shows Bard Advanced. Is Bard advanced same as Gemini Ultra?

It said "Bard is now Gemini"

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Post by naikrovek »

nolok wrote: post #51
yellow_lead wrote: post #2

> 2 TB of storage in Photos, Gmail & Drive for you and up to 5 other people Keep in mind your files may be accidentally deleted if Google doesn't cancel this product first [1][2]. [1] https://www.theregister.com/2023/11/27/google_drive_files_di... [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38431743

If you use any cloud storage, including others like dropbox or icloud, you must always assume that. Whether you're a business or an individual.

Why? It’s not an unsolvable inherent problem.

You pay for cloud storage so you don’t have to think about these things. If you’re saying that one should pay for cloud storage and still worry about these things, then you’re trading money for a service which provides nothing, or at least you’re paying for a service which provides no real utility. You’re trading money for nothing. If anyone thinks that’s a normal transaction then I don’t know how to respond to that.

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Post by nazgul17 »

nolok wrote: post #51
yellow_lead wrote: post #2

> 2 TB of storage in Photos, Gmail & Drive for you and up to 5 other people Keep in mind your files may be accidentally deleted if Google doesn't cancel this product first [1][2]. [1] https://www.theregister.com/2023/11/27/google_drive_files_di... [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38431743

If you use any cloud storage, including others like dropbox or icloud, you must always assume that. Whether you're a business or an individual.

No, you would assign a probability to the event. And that probability would be higher for a Google product.

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Post by ceejayoz »

caslon wrote: post #63
TechRemarker wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google Work Paying users always get the short end of the stick.

"We're using your personal conversations for training data. Thanks." This is acceptable. Consumers click without reading, and don't have any strong organizational ability to punish Google for this. "We're training our AI on the questions of your idiot employees who are inevitably going to submit user PII CSVs or PDFs or even just outright draft emails to suppliers with our tool. Thanks." You don't want to pick this k…

Sure, in this case. But I can’t use my family Gmail account for my Nest thermostat for the same reason.

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Post by rbinv »

tekacs wrote: post #6

Hopefully this isn’t the case for others, but after paying to upgrade my Google One subscription, I landed at a 404 at https://gemini.google.com/u/2/ (because my /u/0/ is one of my Google Workspace accounts). Curious to try it when it works. It’s interesting to note that it’s listed as applying to Gmail, Docs, etc., so this sounds like an account-wide update to Advanced.

Try ?authuser=2 instead of /u/2, that works with some Google products where /u/x doesn't.

edit: doesn't seem to work, it just redirects to /u/2 anyway

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